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Want to See Atheist Relative Morality in Action?

Church Protested This Atheist Billboard

My friend a co-writer, Lyn May- an avowed atheist, posted an article about a church protesting a sign that advocated the atheist lifestyle.  He wrote that this was an outrage.  Needless to say, the comment section became a dialog between conservative bloggers and atheist bloggers.  While most of these discussions degrade into fruitless badgering, this discussion has become a living example of relative morality espoused by those who reject the notion of God & Universal Morality and Christians who believe that all humans are innately aware of morality through their acknowledgement of God- the maker and definer of absolute morality.  Blogger Short Little Rebel decided to turn the morality table around on the atheists and began some rather nasty name calling.  She uses the EXACT arguments from the atheists to protect her disgusting activity and is challenging them to ‘prove’ she is in the moral wrong- according to their own philosophy.  Thus far, no answer is forthcoming.  While somewhat amusing, this discussion is a critical one for Christians confronting atheism today.  Short Little Rebel seeks to prove, through this microcosm, the only logical outcome of relative morality:  hell on earth….. Come see if you can answer the questions posed by both sides….

OOPS !  Guess what happened everyone?  Lyn May, the owner of Rants & Rages has surprised me exceedingly by  kicking me off the blog (today 7/19/11)- thus proving my point:  liberal atheist progressives are 100% intolerant of Christian speech.  He gave no other reason other than ‘artistic’ differences.  Even though his original idea for the blog was to have ALL sides represented!  Ha!  No Christians remain.

The reality is this, my friends:  I used a tactic to prove the complete inability of the atheist philosophy to ensure ‘decent’ behavior from anyone.  Atheism simply piggy backs on the goodness and laws created through Christian values.  In fact, it counts on Christian morality to kick and scream and spit against.  It hopes we will live up to our Christian values.  On it’s own, it can not produce a single reason why someone should stop behaving vilely.  I behaved by their rules.  And they didn’t like the result:  they couldn’t figure out a way to tell me it was ‘wrong’ to make fun of an atheist homosexual.  This same atheist homosexual attacked a Christian writer by calling him names, was horribly sarcastic and worst of all worst:  he refused to address the valid arguments of the Christian author.  This Christian author (the single best author on the blog based on the number of hits & traffic he generated) asked Lyn May to stop the name calling and harrassment by the atheist.    Lyn said he had no intention of censoring ‘free speech’ on his blog.  The Christian author finally left due to the lack of journalistic standards on R&R.

Things came to a crux when I read the article and the comments and decided to turn the table on the atheist.  I gave him a chance to understand that his name calling was ‘wrong’ by any measure through logical reasoning.  This atheist remarked that:

  1. He could call names because the Christian was ACTING like the names he called him.
  2. Just because he was a tiny minority who wanted all references of God taken from government didn’t mean that the majority should get its way.  He stated that ‘majority rules’ is only appropriate from ‘super villains’.
  3. He also sneered that Christian morality was hateful and judgemental and had no right to judge anyone else.  He cited the superiority of atheism in the creation of a new ‘morality’.

What could I do, readers, but turn the tables on this atheist?  I decided to act vilely toward him and his homosexuality.  I told him that I could do that because no one, under his own rules, could make a moral argument why I should stop it.  Did I taunt him?  Yes.  He refused to answer my question:  Why should I stop?  On what moral basis do you stand?  What makes my actions ‘wrong’ under atheist morality?  I can call you these nasty homosexual slurs because you DO these things.  According to his Rule #1, I can use your actions to determine the names I call you.  And I said that even if he got all the homosexuals together and got them to agree that I was ‘wrong’, it wouldn’t matter because, according to your #2 Rule, no matter how small a minority is- it can not be ruled by the majority opinion.   Lastly, he eventually got angry and wished for the death of my loved ones.  That is when I referenced his Rule #3.  His comment (which I knew would eventually come) proved that the only thing that is produced by the relative morality of atheists is chaos, ugliness and hate.  My strategy worked brilliantly- as we were both now spewing hate and bile.  My point exactly.

I explained that when there is no absolute, Universal Morality or God, then mankind cannot find any kind of answer to define ‘good’ or ‘moral’ human behavior.  I showed 100% the atheists’ failure to provide any kind of ‘moral’ argument to stop what was so clearly an immoral action on my part.  Via personal email, I explained all my thoughts & intentions to Lyn, which he claimed to understand.

And then….. I got an email from Lyn asking me to apologize to the Homosexual Atheist!  Why?  For calling him names!  He pretended to miss the entire point of my strategy & comments.  The Homosexual Atheist was a privileged class!  This atheist complained to Lyn and quit the blog in a big huff.  Apparently, another atheist author had flounced away earlier in the month from the blog due to the other Christian author’s posts.    Lyn told me that this atheist’s reasons for quitting were completely understandable! (cause I made fun of his homosexuality).  I made a deal with Lyn:  have the atheist apologize to the other Christian for the names he called and have Lyn apologize as well for allowing the name calling (since he now had come to his senses concerning name calling) and then I would apologize to trouncing the atheist commentors so publically.  But I refused to apologize for the names I called him because I had made it 100% clear that I didn’t mean them and was using them to force the atheist to use his ‘relative morality’ to make me stop.  It was clearly a tactic on my part.  On the other hand, the atheist meant every insult he flung at the Christian author.  I wouldn’t apologize for zero intent to harm. 

Funny, it was when the special class (the homosexual atheist) got ‘insulted’ that Lyn chose to ‘censor’ the blog.  Verrrrrry In-ter-es-ting.  (use a german accent when you read that).

Please visit the R&R blog soon- I’ll bet you a million dollars he removes the comments from the article- or the entire article soon.  He can’t stand to allow atheists to look so helpless and WRONG for long.


  1. Good Morning Shorty, when I was over at CNN Ireports I spent countless weeks and months fending off attacks by the Atheists on my columns about Christianity. I am no stranger to the depraved outlook of those who are so without Hope of any kind. You are doing a great job in putting their mentality into perspective. I have linked back to you in one of my posts about Liberals and Atheists.

    • Thanks, Samiam! I have two series of articles I am starting. The first series will deal with the Federal Reserve- I don’t understand it and I don’t get why it and the President can just decide to print more money. The second series I want to do will focus on the concept of Open Societies & its main proponent, George Soros. I have done a little investigation & just scratching the surface is alarming. What amazes me (just like the ownership of ALL american news), is that these people don’t even really hide their ideas or their actions. It’s out there on video, coming out of their own mouths. Or it is right there in the stock market, plain as day for anyone who takes the time to see. They really think Americans are so stupid and complacent. It’s both insulting and helpful. Since there is rock hard evidence, no one can say it is a weird conspiracy theory.

      In any case, I truly look forward to your input on these ideas…

  2. Lynn has set the post to immediately delete my comments. I said to him that he said that he would not censor the comments on this blog and then changed in mid stream and censored yours and my comments. I explained to him that is called Situation Ethics, just what the catholic priest explained to me as he was sexually abusing me. I dared him to explain his change in morality and asked him to define morality from an atheist view that you have been imploring him to do. As soon as I hit send it disappeared. You and I have exposed him for the hypocrite that he is and I notice that Not has left the building and has not returned. Good riddance. Has Lyn deleted your posts as you have requested?

    • yeah, he’s done the same to me because I went to everyone of my articles to demand that he delete them. I told him that he no longer has permission to use them. But he won’t delete them. He needs our huge number of articles to keep R&R alive. Funny, huh?

  3. Liberals are as hypocritical as water is wet. The end result of any discussion with them is almost certainly their retreat into name-calling after facts have inexorably undermined their untenable positions. They then have the audacity to sputter & squawk when the same tactic is used against them. Keep up the good work.

    • Thanks, Chuck! He has since taken the comments down. I guess he couldn’t handle the fact that atheism couldn’t produce a single reason why a person should stop clearly vile behavior. It was pitiful. We Christians (or any other religious person) can call on God for our reason. But atheists beat themselves at their own game. I truly hope you realize that I never meant those nasty things. But I knew that if I didn’t go there, then the atheists would not be trapped into attempting to stop me. I wanted very much to see what they would do. And what did they do? They just kicked me out! Pls. note that I have been one of their top authors and traffic bringers. But that didn’t matter, see? Because the ONLY thing an atheist cares about is protecting themselves from being proven WRONG and WEAK.

      • OOPS! Now the comments are back up. I think this liberal blog owner can’t figure out his own ethics. He is losing his mind. Either that, or he hates me telling people that he pulled the comments (*gasp* a LIBERAL opposed to ‘free speech’?). I’m so happy that I love and obey God. His rules make total sense and add to the felicity of humans around the world. I wouldn’t want to be as confused as this atheist is.

    • Thanks Samiam, I have an idea for all conservative bloggers to unite in promoting a certain number of crucial themes. News ownership, campaign contributions & the effect they are having on politics, the New World Order plan (it’s very real), the errosion of the Constitution as the basis for law. If we can get enough people hammering the message home across the Internet, it would be even more powerful than any news oulets. I believe that the American spirit is still alive & well- remember the flags after 9/11? We were all so happy & proud to see the spontaneous patriotism. The people who own the news are attempting to portray Americans as anti-patriotism, pro-gay marriage & adoption, pro-abortion (all forms including partial birth and late term), etc. Most people don’t support these things but feel hopeless. They think everyone around them does and they are afraid of saying anything. Because they see the rage of the liberals on t.v. They know they couldn’t stand to be under attack like that. We need to encourage people by showing them overwhelming support for them & their natural instincts by writing about them & endorsing them. It is the only way Americans can overturn a government that no longer serves us.

  4. SLR,

    Oh, don’t get me wrong. Your post made my day! And I know that you didn’t mean what you said, although it took me almost the entire post before I realized what you were doing. I’m not that smart.

    And you are correct. Homosexuals are just another group of “special” people that regular citizens must be careful not to insult. One more in a long list of groups.

    It’s like my dad used to say, “You are what you eat!” Nuff said.


    • yeah, my husband & I really laughed as I wrote that crazy stuff. He gave some of the more colorful insights. The thing that made me laugh, however, was how mad I knew losing would make ‘NOT’. He was just too big for his britches. The colorful language did the trick too. I don’t know why. It was just so absurd.

  5. SLR,
    I was just shocked at all of the words that I figure you must have learned at West Point! Even my Navy career didn’t help me understand everything, and a lot of the words I had to look up! WOW! I have an even greater respect for you now, SLR. You would have made a GREAT Navy Chief! All my best.

    • Ha, ha! Well, I didn’t know I could make that stuff up either, Donn. But I guess being glib serves you for both good and evil. I hope you realize that I didn’t mean a single one of those vile words & phrases. I just get so tired of liberal sarcasm, sniping and the worst of all: their lack of logic. They set the rules that allow them, the Godless, to behave in any manner they wish. They know that principled religious people will never stoop as low as they do. I tried my best to use logic & critical reasoning with this guy. But his hatred and bile was all he could respond with. He had no desire to further his or my understanding of life. He only wanted to serve his own selfish need to call the other author whatever names he wanted. After he refused to answer my points, it hit me that the best way to demonstrate his lack of logic concerning morality was to simply adopt his own rules and then use them against him. He had no argument whatsoever as to why I should stop being vile. He quit the field with his tail firmly tucked and said like a baby, “I’m not talking to you anymore.” He just quit the blog. And I got an email from the blog owner (also an atheist- and he let this guy call the other author (a devout Christian) names) and it requested that I apologize for what I did so that this idiot would come back. See, homosexuals are a ‘special’ class again. They can dish insults and names, but I can’t. And no one can give me a logical basis for this reasoning. Is morality defined blog by blog? House by house? country by country? race by race? culture by culture? Does it change over time? At what interval should each defining group get together to decide the ‘new’ morality? What if the morality of one group is different than the morality of the other group? Does majority rule? But no, they say that the majority can’t rule. So each individual makes it up?

      Hence, my example of brutal behavior. I wanted ‘NOT’ to give any reason why I should stop insulting him. It was HIS rule that you can call someone a name if they actually DO what the name implies. Being homosexual, he does, in fact, lick dicks. Therefore, I can call him a dick licker! lol!

      He just couldn’t stand losing. At his own game. Atheists NEED us dumb religious folk to behave nicely and to make laws that protect them. Because left to them, it would all be chaos & destructon & hell.

      THAT was my point. Which I think I demonstrated to a tee.

      • Hey Shortie
        Lyn is an absolute hypocrite. I asked him to get Not to apologize or at least reign in his personal attack and Lyn said that he had no intention of censoring the blog, that it was good entertainment.

        The bible talks about being gored by your own ox and I think that he demonstrated that with you and me and his double standards

      • Like I said, you are always welcome on my blog and I will not tolerate disrespect on my blog.
        John. I went to the article and he has deleted those comments. He also deleted my commment that I had lost all respect for him by having double standards and allowing Not to insult me his top blogger and then asking you to apologize to Not. So much for atheist morality.

  6. BTW Lyn or someone accessed my new blog from the writers needed link on his blog. I clicked on writers and the only ones listed are Lyn and David. I don’t know if it is prophetic or an omission but I thought that I would give you a heads up. You are all set up on my blog should you wish to post there. Punch in your blogs and mine should also show up on your list now. News On The Right

  7. And you proved it brilliantly. For a minute you had me believing that you had gone off the deep end and finally lost it with the atheist libtards.
    Blessings on you and yours

  8. Hey Shortie
    I already stated that I won’t comment any more on R@R but let me say kudos to your brilliant turniung the tables on the boorish lout Not a Scientist. He never knew what hit him. You like Rush
    display outrageousness by being outrageus. You took the gloves off and did bare knuckle (mouth)
    brawling with him. I have already made my suggestion to you on your email.

    Blessings on you and yours

    • I thought you might enjoy it. I am truly wondering what Lyn will say. Whichever way it goes, I love how it perfectly displays ‘hell on earth’. Not has now wished the death on one of my family. That is exactly what I was hoping for…. Without a GOD, a wise Father above us humans, we have no choice but to descend into hell. Atheists simply don’t see this. It is exactly like Canadians who bad mouth the USA, but if push came to shove, they depend on us for their national security. Atheists count on the morality of Christians & other religious people to continue acting according to their faith. They get to be morally deficient babies while the rest of us must tolerating their kicks, punches and spit. They need us to hold their world together. Without the majority of us behaving well, the society they live in and love would become nothing but a hell of their own making. That is what I am trying to prove.

      • Hey I noticed that Not does not bother to explain atheist morality to you but simply dismisses you. I love it. You shut him up and he is making excuses why he is not going to respond to you because he can’t and he knows it. Brilliant!

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