Is Homosexuality A Sin? What Did Jesus Say?

“Is THIS what God calls ‘good’?”

Is this the new building block for CIVILIZATION?
Is this the new building block for CIVILIZATION?  Can this replace the Traditional Family?

First, I do not believe there is such a thing as a homosexual community or person. I believe there is such a thing as a community or a person that practices homosexuality. While the point seems minor, it is an important delineation. Is it possible that the tiniest fraction of the human population is curious or drawn to these practices? Perhaps. After all, animal populations show this deviation. But not in the percentages that the human population is now displaying. And we are NOT mere animals. We are soulful beings with minds & hearts to go along with our physical bodies. And we belong to a Maker to whom we owe obedience. Regardless of our personal desires or temptations. God states very clearly that he detests homosexual practices.  He honors the Old Testament kings who ‘eliminated’ the homosexuals from the land- now that’s personal! God’s hatred for homosexuality is plainly and clearly stated, above and beyond what God calls, ‘sexual sin’ in both testaments.

While most homosexuals deny that Jesus, himself, spoke against the practice, he did. Jesus specifically defined marriage as between a man and a woman. NOT because of historical ‘norms’ that need special interpretation in today’s culture- but because God created us as man and woman.  In other words, it is due to our BIOLOGY, not these new ‘gender’ classifications and not our sexual ‘preferences’.  It’s based on our genetics, period. No historic or cultural understanding needed.  It’s clear as day.  See here:

(Matt 19:3-9) “3 Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?” 4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[a] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’[b]? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.” 7 “Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?” 8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

Here is the chain of logic embodied in this passage:  ALL sex outside of marriage was sinful. Because marriage can only be between a genetic male and a genetic female (as created by God), homosexuals can’t be married.   Because homosexuals can’t be married, by definition, (ie, they are both female or both male), they are having sex outside of marriage.  Therefore, we are back to statement one:  since homosexual sex is outside of marriage, it is a sin in Jesus’ eyes.  

It goes as far as to say that marriage, once made, is bound in heaven, and thus, is unbreakable.  That makes divorce (except because of adultery) a sin too.

I believe the people who have homosexual sex know it is wrong.  And although they have parades and pose proudly like in the photo at the beginning of this article, I believe they are ashamed of themselves.  If they weren’t, why are they so interested in negating the Bible’s words on the matter? Why, if they are so convinced that God approves of their behavior, can’t they exist peaceably with Jesus and those who follow him?   And why do almost all people who call themselves ‘gay’ also call themselves ‘atheist’?  Why the vicious hatred?

As for Gay Marriage, I view this as purely political. It is a means used by Progressives to destroy the family unit and the strength of the Church. Why? Because the FAMILY unit is the number one way that any society can properly teach, disperse resources and raise functional and independent citizens. Wreck this and you will get a new population that will be mentally crippled and dependent on Uncle Sam for everything. This is the number one goal of the Progressive movement: to gain complete power over its citizens by making them dependent on it for basic needs.

And Gay Adoption? This is purely and simply child abuse. In every way possible way. Sexual identity and sexual role modeling are almost 100% learned in the home as children soak in everything between their parents. They decide what they want to be as a man or woman and what they don’t want to be- all by watching their parents’ interactions. Uncle Bob or Auntie Kathy will NOT be able to put in the face time to fill this role in any child’s life. Without this type of daily learning, children must struggle terribly to understand themselves as men or women. As sexual identity is one of the most important ways in which we define ourselves, I believe this is intentional child abuse and should never be allowed.

Homosexuals are quick to point out that parents can die, leaving children to fend for themselves.  Well, yes, and it’s very tragic & tough for those kids. But why would we intentionally put children in this situation? Adoption rules are extremely strict- they discriminate on income, home cleanliness, education & age. Homosexuality should also be a discriminatory factor.   Even homosexuals admit that 98% of the population is heterosexual.  That means that 98% of children (in their own thinking) would be heterosexual and in need of heterosexual parental role models.  It seems only fair to the children who are to be adopted that they are placed in the homes most suited for them.

Many, many lukewarm Christians have never read their Bible and so are not armed properly for spiritual warfare. Thus, they condone that which they should not. They actually help satan destroy souls- and our country.  These are those who believe that it is acceptable for unrepentant homosexuals to be in churches.  They ignore what the message is to weak, new or ignorant Christians- especially children.

Many will claim (because they heard it somewhere- kinda like ‘separation of church & state’) that the Old Testament Law is DEAD. Completely false. That is the most irresponsible paraphrase of Apostle Paul’s deep thoughts concerning Jewish laws.  He merely stated that the old rules about sacrifices, cleansing rituals, eating rituals, priesthood rituals, etc, were no longer necessary because Jesus already fulfilled them.   He was the final sacrifice that would clean us and make us righteous before God. Jesus’ body & blood were so far more superior as a sacrifice to God than any number of beef shanks or birds, or cups of wheat could ever be. His sacrifice of himself was so magnificent in God’s eyes that it SUFFICED for all of us, for all time. THAT was Paul’s point. NOT that the entire Old Testament, which displays God’s personality and views on moral/ immoral behavior, is somehow negated! Jesus was EXTRA clear on the matter when he said,

“17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”

Thus all Old Testament laws and statements that judge homosexual sex (along with other types of sexual sin) as sinful remain standing.  In addition, IF the Old Testament ‘Law’ were all dead, so would the ten commandments be.   I don’t think so.

And here are the laws about homosexuality written in several books of the Old and New Testaments (I didn’t include Jesus’ words on marriage as they are already stated):

Romans 1:18-32 (New Testament)“The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.”

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (New Testament) Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Timothy 1: 8-11(New Testament) We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, 10 for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine 11 that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me.

Leviticus 20:13 (Old Testament) 13“‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

Leviticus 18:20-29 (Old Testament) 20 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your neighbor’s wife and defile yourself with her.
21 “‘Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molek, for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the Lord.
22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.
23 “‘Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion.
24 “‘Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled. 25 Even the land was defiled; so I punished it for its sin, and the land vomited out its inhabitants. 26 But you must keep my decrees and my laws. The native-born and the foreigners residing among you must not do any of these detestable things, 27 for all these things were done by the people who lived in the land before you, and the land became defiled. 28 And if you defile the land, it will vomit you out as it vomited out the nations that were before you.
29 “‘Everyone who does any of these detestable things—such persons must be cut off from their people.

Duet 22:5 (Old Testament) 5 A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this..

Judges 19:22-24 (Old Testament) 22 While they were enjoying themselves, some of the wicked men of the city surrounded the house. Pounding on the door, they shouted to the old man who owned the house, “Bring out the man who came to your house so we can have sex with him.”
23 The owner of the house went outside and said to them, “No, my friends, don’t be so vile. Since this man is my guest, don’t do this outrageous thing.

1Kings 15:11-13 (Old Testament) 1 And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord, as did David his father.
12 And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.
13 And also Maachah his mother, even her he removed from being queen, because she had made an idol in a grove; and Asa destroyed her idol and burned it by the Brook Kidron.

2 Kings 23:4-7 (Old Testament) 4 And the king commanded Hilkiah the high priest, and the priests of the second order and the keepers of the door, to bring forth out of the temple of the Lord all the vessels that were made for Baal and for the Asherah pole and for all the host of heaven; and he burned them outside Jerusalem in the fields of Kidron, and carried the ashes of them unto Bethel.
5 And he put down the idolatrous priests whom the kings of Judah had ordained to burn incense in the high places in the cities of Judah and in the places round about Jerusalem, those also who burned incense unto Baal, to the sun and to the moon and to the planets, and to all the host of heaven.
6 And he brought out the Asherah pole from the house of the Lord outside Jerusalem unto the Brook Kidron, and burned it at the Brook Kidron, and stamped it small to powder, and cast the powder thereof upon the graves of the children of the people.
7 And he broke down the houses of the sodomites that were by the house of the Lord, where the women wove hangings for the Asherah pole.

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202 comments

  1. It is pure hedonism. It is pure selfishness. It is a pure desire to do what one wants and not what the Creator of us all wants. This same mindset that had the people of Sodom and Gommorah wanting the male angels that visited Lot. They were forceful. They were violent. They wanted to fulfill their fleshly desires. Lot even offered up HIS OWN DAUGHTERS to the mob. The homosexual mob refused. They wanted the male “visitors” that were visiting Lot. We see that same mindset today.

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  2. Of course you show pictures of flamboyant actors, gay or not. What about hetero porn? Maybe you should should that when you talk about 1 man 1 woman marriage. Then your photos would be on a level playing field. There are hundreds more that show loving couples in same sex relationships. Doesn’t matter. Your brother spoke volumes, and will continue to do so. Have a great day!

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    • See Jen, the trouble with atheists is that they lack logic. This isn’t homosexual porn. This is what they do in the BROAD DAYLIGHT! They do this as gay PRIDE. No heterosexual would do this in public. Certainly not in a parade. And certainly not to represent ourselves and our sexuality. Why should I put what hetero’s consider to be SHAMEFUL and equate it with what homo’s consider WONDERFUL! To be on a level playing field would actually be for me to put photos of what heterosexuals consider to be WONDERFUL about hetero marriage and hetero sexuality. I promise you, it would NOT look like this. We are proud of a whole different reality. My BROTHER? who the heck is my brother?

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      • SLR, you are SOLID. I wish every person who claimed to be a Christian lived Jesus and stopped treating His word like it’s optional. You’re so rad and funny! Your writings are full of Biblical truth and just plane ol’ common sense! Christ and Logic.

        It seems like everyone is tolerant and accepting, which means no one can be wrong, which is garbage. There has to be someone who is right or wrong, otherwise there is no order. But gladly, Jesus is the order. I know we’re looking forward to chillin’ with Jesus, but in the meantime, we’re going to keep on reppin’ Christ with everything we have!

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      • Hey, DUDE! We will be chillin’ with Jesus soon. My question: “Will he be wearing jeans when he returns?” Just how DOES the Son of God return to earth? How does he choose his outfit? These kinds of thoughts kinda tickle me. I mean, he does have to decide, right? How about hairstyle? lolol! aaaahhh, God is funny too. After all, he did create humor, didn’t he?

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      • The whole article says real, but to say that being homosexual itself’s a sin is a misunderstanding. God doesn’t say anything about homosexuality and not saying that He condemns one person for his sexual identity though he belongs to LGBT community. I believe that the only reason why God condemn homosexual people is the things they’re doing, “sex” to be specific and since its imposible to homos’ getting merried, its clearly means “prohibited”. Also hetero people are prohibited to commit in that act untill they got merried. So you can’t say things specifically like “homos’ are sinful in God’s eye” untill you knew exactly what the heck are they doing in life, unless you’re the sinful one ‘coz you criticize someone without knowing his whole personality. For me, homosexuality is not a choice, its inborn why? Because me myself, hates the way I am (being gay) and its hard to cure so saying “it’s a choice” is bullshit. I felt it since I was five so I knew it untill I grew up to present. I’m seventeen yet unhappy for myself. I wish people realize that treating anybody as normal and legal and not like a some cursed things that they can say whatever they say (I’m not pertaining the article or the writer).

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      • Jacob, again, give your life to God and he will save yours. Accept Christ as your savior. That is the solution for all sinners. And of course I am a sinful person. Everyone is. Because we are all wretchedly bad, we need Jesus to save us. You are only 17. A baby. I know you are full of pain. Give the pain to Jesus. He is strong enough to bear it. He already bore your sins and mine on the cross. We are forgiven. I don’t believe in ‘curing’ homosexuality. To me, those words embody so many false ideas. I believe in the ability of a person to control their ACTIONS. and with enough discipline, to control their minds. We all are tempted. With the help of Christ, we can overcome everything. You are not alone, Jacob. Every human being is in the same sinful boat as you. So don’t be unhappy with yourself because you are tempted in this way. You need to understand that everyone is tempted in the same way as you. It is just on other types of sins. First and foremost, you need to give your life to Christ. You need to see that you need his help and you need to go to him with a full heart, sorry for the things you have done. And he will forgive you. Every single time you ask. He LOVES you- all of you. Do you think he has abandoned you because you are tempted in this way? Ha! Then none of us could be saved. But my dear, control your ACTIONS and practice with your mental discipline. No ‘cure’ is needed for your condition. CHOICE is the cure. So don’t worry about what tempts you. Ask for Christ’ strength and conviction and move on- just like all of us.

        Again, I want you to understand that I don’t think homosexuals are worse sinners. I simply write about this topic to combat the liberal push to normalize homosexuality in order to drive a wedge between people and God.

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      • Bible doesn’t contains some gay condemns thingy for the word Homosexual itself and God’s not saying that He condemns one person for his sexual identity though he belongs to LGBT community. I believe that the only reason why God condemn homosexual people is the things they’re doing, “sex” to be specific and since its imposible to homos’ getting merried, its clearly means “prohibited”. Also hetero people are prohibited to commit in that act untill they got merried. So you can’t say things specifically like “homos’ are sinful in God’s eye” untill you knew exactly what the heck are they doing in life, unless you’re the sinful one ‘coz you criticize someone without knowing his whole personality. For me, homosexuality is not a choice, its inborn why? Because me myself, hates the way I am (being gay) and its hard to cure so saying “it’s a choice” is bullshit. I felt it since I was five so I knew it untill I grew up to present. I’m seventeen yet unhappy for myself. I wish people realize that treating anybody as normal and legal is a rightous way in projecting what bible says in reality and not like a some cursed things that they can say whatever they want to say (I’m not pertaining to the article or the writer).

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      • Hi Jacob, of course it is the sex that is the sin- not the person themselves. But you need to understand that I don’t believe people are ‘inherently’ homosexuals. Therefore, when I say, ‘homosexuals’, by definition, I am saying ‘those who have homosexual sex.’ Therefore, if a person does not engage in homosexual sex, they are not guilty of the sin of homosexuality. Which I believe you are saying. And of which I agree. If you have lust or temptation to have sex in a manner that displeases God, then welcome to the human race! As you said, God also considers adultery and sex outside of marriage to be a sin as well. Therefore, I am in agreement with you. As to homosexual sex being a choice, I affirm that opinion. Voluntary homosexual sex is indeed a choice. Lust and desire are another thing. This most certainly can be ‘cured’ just as any sinful desire can be ‘cured’. Every person lusts and wishes to sin in a large variety of ways. But you can control your thoughts. When desire to sin enters our minds, we can train our minds not to dwell on it. Over time, we gain self discipline. NOTHING is outside of God’s power. Prayer and discipline work. The sin doesn’t lie in the fact that desires come upon you. It resides in allowing the desire to grow and prosper in your mind (Christ said that sexual lust is just as bad as the action- but I don’t think he meant the moment lust enters the mind. I think it is when a person allows himself to dwell in those fantasies). In the end, if you suffer with this type of weakness, give up on sex altogether. Christians are called to give up our entire lives- not just our sex life. It is a small price to pay for salvation.

        Jacob. I want to encourage you to not hate yourself. I have sinned as much as you have sinned. I owe a debt to God that is so great I can never repay it. I still sin. All the time. You and I are the same. I write about the subject of homosexuality to combat the incredible push to normalize homosexuality in modern society. Not to especially condemn those who suffer from this temptation. I don’t condemn you. I don’t consider you any more sinful than me. You have lust. I have had lust. We all sin. Not one of us is better than the other. We all have our crosses to bear. This is merely your cross. I have mine- believe me.

        Listen, TRUST in God. Do you very best. When you fail, don’t hate yourself. Bring it to God with a repentant heart and he will forgive you. Every time. Because that is how great his love is. Just try your best, Jacob. And allow Christ to invade your soul. The joy he brings will overshadow whatever paltry thing you give up to please God. God bless you, dear. Susan

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  3. This is a great article. I must say, I’m confronted with the “love” argument all the time. Why can’t two people who love each other, be together? Problem is, they can. No one is stopping the commitment or marriage. This is all about Federal recognition and benefits. Don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.

    We don’t get the luxury of picking and choosing which biblical principles we follow based on our own judgement or cultural sensitivity. The Bible is either ALL true, or ALL false. Make the decision folks and make it wisely. The decision will affect you for eternity.

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  4. SLR,
    The reason why the sodomites are so desperate to pass laws ‘normalizing’ these perversions is because they want to try to sooth their consciences. After all, if its legal its OK. The shameful part is that such a small part of the population has gained control of the various state legislatures to get these abominations passed.

    This type of behavior has always been around but it was done in private. No parades, marches, or otherwise public displays, because everyone knew it was shameful. Now, Adonai has given everyone free will, and if people choose to do these shameful acts, so be it.

    However, as Jesus said in Matthew 18:5-9: “whoever causes one of the little ones to sin, it would be better that a giant millstone be tied around their neck and be pitched into the sea” That’s the very sad part of this perversion. See the young girl on the right side of the picture you posted? She obviously thinks its great fun. These adults are sucking weak willed, under loved, runaway, confused, etc. children into this life style of death. Any so-called Christian believer who agrees with same sex marriage should just take their Bible (if they have one) and throw it in the garbage, since they truly don’t believe what it says.

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  5. You have expressed the Christian viewpoint on homosexuality perfectly. No one that I have read has done a better job than you have. I agree totally with everything you have written. Great job!

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  6. I am a Christian, who strongly supports all gay rights issues. The Bible has been used in the past to downgrade both women and blacks. Do you fully realize that more blood has been spilled because of religious persecution than all major worle wars combined. It was Martin Luther King Jr. who said,”Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.” By the way his late wife, Coretta Scott King, was a big supporter of gay rights issues and frequently spoke out on them? The U.S. Constitutition assures all to, “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.” How can happiness be achieved when one is not able to ,marry the monogamust loved one they have shared their life with–sometimes for over 50 years. The picture you use above is a great injustice to gays. No, we don’t go to work or fight in wars (like I did in Vietnam) dressed like this. Susan, you are simply another run of the mill hate-monger. If your last name is truly hyphenated “Shannon-Christian”, the Christian part represents nothing that our dear Lord, Jesus Christ stood for—-which was love for others. But then again, I suspect you would know little about this type of agape “unconditional” ;love. How can you sleep at peace at night after dispensing so much hate? Bill

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    • Bill, these photos are from the gay PRIDE parade that is happening all over the world on Gay Pride Day. There are tens of thousands of these on google. Just click on this link if you don’t believe me. All you have to do is use the term ‘gay pride’. Please note that these are actions of your own people who are celebrating what they are PROUD of. So why complain that I post a photo of what your own people celebrate as the epitome of your sexual identity? If these were ones you were ashamed of, I would not post it. While heterosexuals have perversions, we acknowledge them to BE perversions. We certainly don’t run around in full public view, in front of little children & people trying to eat their meals and shove our privates at them. You know you have been to every one of these nasty displays. These days, even the governors are marching in front of them proclaiming to my little 8 year old boy, “Look! This is GREAT! This is something to celebrate and honor! So much so that I, the governor, will lead it!”

      If you are ashamed of these photos, why do you pose for them all in public? Why am I hateful to post what you are proud of? And if you are embarrassed by these, why did you go to them and celebrate like wild along with all the other homosexuals and supporters in your area?
      You are being illogical.
      At the end of this message, I will post what heterosexuals are proud of about our sexuality and then you will see my point and my complaint.

      Bill, I do not hate you. Rather I love you and all my fellow man. I love you enough to do what almost no writer or even Christian will do: take on the tremendous amount of hate from the majority of our sinful country to tell you the TRUTH from both God and Jesus. You say you are a Christian? Then obey Jesus. Obey God. You can not say that you love them when you intentionally break their commandments every day of your life. Jesus said very clearly, “If you love me, do what I command.” God said the same thing over and over again. Jesus did not only say this once, but over and over again. Christ love = Obedience to their command. Bill, I write this article to prevent the young and vulnerable from trying your lifestyle. Once in, it is almost impossible to leave. It is a mindset even more than it is sex. I write so that people who are already in the lifestyle can make a conscience choice concerning their sexuality. don’t want you to believe the lies coming from so many false teachers. The scripture I posted was irrefutable. There is no way out of it. I want you to fully understand that you are choosing to satisfy your earthly desire for a mere 80 years or so and throwing away your true life that will last trillions and trillions of joyous years. Personally, I can’t see that mere sex is worth it, but that’s me. Bill, I love you even though I don’t know who you are. But God does. And out of his great love for you, he brought you to my article and the Truth. You have a choice. You can simply stop the behavior and make yourself right with Jesus. Ask forgiveness and you will receive it. And then, sin no more. It is not your desire that condemns you, it is your choice to ignore God’s commandments. Sex is nothing. Choice to intentionally disobey even when you know the truth is the true sin. And it separates you from God. Bill, I pray that you will simply stop. Go to church and sin no more. simple as pie. You don’t need sex to live. And you know it. Abstinence or a woman. Pick. And gain your true everlasting life. Now, here are photos of what heterosexuals are PROUD of about our sexuality. This is a fair and direct comparison to the photo I loaded in this article. http://wp.me/a1wV4E-18n, http://wp.me/a1wV4E-18o, http://wp.me/a1wV4E-18p

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      • You’re presenting examples of individuals expressing their individual opinions. They are acts of individuals who do not represent the whole. If this is the logic you’re choosing to represent your argument, I will gladly forward you slews of pictures depicting Christians committing attrocities in the name of God and claiming to speak or him, one of them being a quaint little baptist church who decided it best to string a black man up by his legs, pierce his skin in multiple locations, and watch him bleed out before the glory of God.

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      • Jeremy, if this were ‘only a few individuals’, then you would have a point. But it is not. I invite you to simply Google ‘gay pride’. The onslaught of the tens of thousands of such images- from gay pride parades all over the world provides all the evidence I need. This is NOT a ‘few’ individuals. This is the entire culture. Also, there are NO gay organizations that speak out against this parade. In fact, almost every governor of every liberal state has been the parade marshal of this barbaric display of the worst of human sexuality. The streets are packed with supporters & onlookers. The media Glorifies this parade. And gays all over the world flock to this parade- which becomes a literal sexual orgy in any city in which it is held. Just ask any restaurant owner in the vicinity- it’s bathrooms are literally filled with men having sex with one another- total strangers. If any of this were a lie, you would have a point. But it is not a lie- and everyone knows it. I am printing the photos that the gay community is PROUD of. That is WHY they call it ‘gay PRIDE parade’. Heterosexuals do have sexual sin- terrible sin. But we don’t parade it in the streets, with politicians & children marching along side of it and calling it heterosexual PRIDE. We call it heterosexual SHAME. And that, my friend, is the difference. As for the baptist church you are speaking of- first, I don’t know whom you are referencing- but no doubt it was a bizarre incident from a so-called church that NO CHRISTIAN would say represented Christianity. I challenge you to find Christian churches today that glorify Christian sin. We CONDEMN it when we see it. Where are the parades celebrating this horrific event you speak of? Where do we call that Christian PRIDE?? The point of this article is not to say that ONLY homosexuals sin. No. It is to say that WHEN homosexuals sin, it is GLORIFIED and paraded in front of my children as something they are PROUD of.

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  7. Hey Rebel, You’ve hit the nail on the head! All we can do it share the Word of God, who is The Truth, with the world. A remnant will listen but most won’t. It’s the mystery of iniquity but without freewill there could never be Love. We love Him because He first loved us. 1 John 4:19

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  8. What Did Jesus Say?
    From the beginning of the creation God made them male and female for this cause shall a man leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, LET NO MAN PUT ASUNDER. Mark 10:6-9

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  9. I pray for the homosexuals and I pray for those who do not focus on the meaning of Christ which is love and forgiveness.

    I do not judge as we’re not supposed to according to God’s word.

    The homosexual issues are minor compared to the real downfall of family values and we as Christians continue to widely accept divorce as “normal” and remarriage as “normal”.

    The bible is just as clear, if not more so, that divorce and remarriage is a sin. It destroys the family and those who remarry are living in just as much sin as the homosexuals. Luke 16:18

    Our focus should be on the family and reminding those that divorce is a sin.

    A homosexual should not be a minister or priest just like a minister should not be allowed to preach if he has sinned by divorcing his wife. Pulpits are full of them.

    The bible clearly states women should have no roll in the church, but we as a society have accepted all of these things God has claimed as sinful.

    Our nation is suffering because of these things. Not just the homosexuals.

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    • Let me guess, Frank. Either you are a homosexual or your son is. While that is difficult for you, there is NO DOUBT that homosexuality and gay marriage/ adoption is a major destroyer of marriage and family. Also, it is a direct contributor to the decay of morality in society. God hates homosexual behavior- but I suppose that YOU, in your own infinite wisdom, have decided that YOU know better than him. As for ‘not judging’, you are a hypocrite. Jesus called on us to ‘judge’. What you and so many disobedient Christians like to do is TWIST Jesus’ words to suit your desire to continue in your disobedience. Also, to avoid doing the difficult work of being a representative of Christ on earth. The Bible most certainly does NOT say that women play no role in church. Again, you serve yourself, dear, with that faulty reasoning. When people like you make statements concerning the bible, there is no use trying to properly educate you. You are a user. You, like the Catholic Church of old, USE the bible in your attempt to CONTROL and silence people. You are afraid of what I am saying, thus you use the bible to say I have no role as a woman in the service of the lord. Weak.

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      • Oh how I will pray for you. Your pain is so apparent. May God comfort you and my you feel His Peace surround your broken being.

        1 Corinthians 14:34 speaks very clearly and just as God hates homosexual sin, women should remain silent in our churches. The Bible says so. Literally.

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      • It’s a shame that you’re upset. Calling me or my son(s) a homosexual validates projection. Perhaps you had a homosexual experience in your childhood, or perhaps you are a closeted homosexual yourself constantly fighting those unnatural feelings. Is that the source of your vile hatred and anger? God loves you.

        We have prayed for you and added you to our daily prayer list.

        Hopefully you saw my verse in reference to women being silent in church. I am not Catholic. Southern Baptist raised and believe the Bible to be the literal word of God. If you are a true conservative and you believe in the bible and that it is to be interpreted literally, and you hold a ministerial role within the church, please silence yourself according to God’s Holy Word. Amen.

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      • And ANOTHER vindictive ‘Christian’ will PRAY for my salvation! lol! May I politely request to be taken OFF that prayer list? You people really crack me up. You don’t have an obedient bone in your body. Oh, I saw your statement that women should be SILENT. And my response: ‘You are a moron.’ Oh, correction. “You are an insecure, little guy who wants to use the Bible (INCORRECTLY) to control women who dwarf your intellect in such an embarrassing way.”

        Now, your silly comments concerning Paul and Timothy’s letters only demonstrate how truly ignorant you are concerning the bible. Why don’t YOU obey the word of God AND Jesus when they call homosexuality an abomination? There can only be one reason: you are a liberal and you either are a homosexual or know homosexuals. AND you are too cowardly to address a sin that is overtaking our nation just as it did in Sodom and Gomorrah. You KNOW you will get hammered by all your liberal friends. And so, you chose the easy, cowardly road. Let me tell you, buddy, there are MANY on the road to hell- and they are ALL in agreement with you, not me, concerning homosexual sex, marriage and adoption. So, at least you are in good company. me? I’ll stick to the road less traveled. Thanks.

        p.s. the bible is ALSO clear that both men and women would prophecy in the end times. Peter considered HIS time to be the end times. In the book of Acts, Peter again quoted this scripture to define the WOMEN and their equal role. Jesus also made men and women EQUAL by saying that ALL who obey the will of God are his sisters and brothers in Christ. Just as slaves and masters were made equal. Just as Jew and Gentile were made equal. What nincompoops like you fail to recognize is that Jesus’ statement that made all people equal under God created the most radical social changes in Jewish/Roman/Greek society ever seen before. Slaves were considering themselves equal to their masters and weren’t sure if they should continue obeying them. The masters weren’t sure either. Jews and Gentile women were clashing in the newly formed churches in Greece because Jews wore head scarves and Gentiles didn’t. Jews and Gentiles argued over circumcision and also the types of food they could/should eat. Jewish Christians wouldn’t enter into Gentile Christians’ homes because it was considered ‘unclean’ by Jewish law. Many, many of Paul’s and Timothy’s letters were written to address these issues that threatened to undo the churches. Women had NEVER before been allowed to even worship with men in the synagogs, let alone LEARN scripture and speak in synagog. The very fact that the new churches allowed women at all is a remarkable sign of obedience of the men to Jesus’ proclamation! At that time in history, women stayed home and the MEN learned the Torah and got an education- even reading and writing were not permitted to women of the day. When Christ EQUATED women with men (and slave w/ master, etc), it cause HUGE chaos- both within and without the church. Even Rome began to cast a leery eye at this ‘new’ Christianity as it equated the emperor to even a slave. This was a direct threat to the Roman rule as they insisted that Caesar was a god. Thus, Paul and Timothy basically asked everyone to SUBMIT to the demands of one another for the sake of PEACE and service to God. Not because they believed men were better than women or that they supported slavery or vegetarianism. Thus, he called on the Gentile women to just give into the Jewish women’s demand that they wear head scarves in church, he told slaves to serve their masters well, he told people to remain in the jobs they already had and to be content, he recommended that the women (who were not asking a million questions- even about the most basic things in the Torah, let alone about how Christ fulfilled it or changed it!) to be silent and talk to their husbands at home- this was to satisfy men who were complaining about their new freedom (like you about me). He recommended that no one should eat the meat that was already consecrated to pagan gods if it should cause any confusion for the newly converted Christians in their group- even though he KNEW it wasn’t sinful to eat it. Paul explains ALL of this clearly if you would bother to read the ENTIRE letters. He recommended these things- even to the point where he would cut off his hand- to keep the peace and to prevent the loss of even one new Christian. He knew that the small minded bickering would soon divide the church or destroy it- he made the point over and over again that these matters weren’t worth it. He believed in self sacrifice to the greater good- not that women were less than men or slaves should obey masters or that people should be vegetarians, etc, etc, etc.

        Many so-called atheists love to interpret the bible (erroneously) as you do. They claim that Paul’s and Timothy’s letters in the New Testament ADVOCATE slavery and vegetarianism and sexism because they asked for slaves & women & men to put limits upon themselves. But they, like you, do not bother to even read the bible and understand it. If you truly believe that WOMEN are subservient to men because of their letters, then you must also believe that women should continue to wear head scarves and slaves should continue to obey their masters and that we should be vegetarians. You can’t have it both ways, numbskull. It is CLEAR to anyone with a brain that Paul asked us all to SACRIFICE for the sake of peace. Not because it was required by God but because he felt that these things were of little importance in comparison to leading someone else astray in the Church or even causing the downfall of the church. You are exactly like the small minded bickering Christians who existed during Paul’s time- they just couldn’t stand seeing slaves equal to masters, women equal to men, Jews equal to Gentile. They LIKED their pecking order- as you like yours. Well, guess what? Women’s equality to men is no longer a stumbling block to society. Slaves being considered equal to their masters is no longer a stumbling block to people. Eating pagan meat is no longer a stumbling block. Neither are head scarves. So.. it is moot at this point within the church. Today’s church has other issues that we must consider- like how churches and supposedly Christian people are not refusing to obey God’s & Jesus’ words about homosexuality, for example! Read the WHOLE bible, ok, FRANK? p.s.s. God will forgive me for calling you a numbskull and nincompoop way sooner than he will forgive you for abusing and using his holy word to wreak havoc on people’s lives- just so you can feel like a big man in this life.

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      • That’s it, sister. Get it all out. So full of pain. When peace arrives, you’ll see. Sick sick lady. You probably have no one in your life. You live behind your wall with your contorted thoughts in loneliness. (or thoughts of softball?) Very damaged and broken. It’s obvious you are starting to awaken. You need prayer, sinner. We are lifting you up in prayer. May you see God’s Love for you. We are all sinners, including you.

        Release your pain. Open your closed, cold, bitter heart. Let Jesus’ love dwell in you.

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      • lololol! No one on God’s green earth believes you care about me at this moment, Frank. You couldn’t care less about my ‘pain’, buddy. You are steaming mad and you want revenge against me- and THAT is why you say you will pray for me. Your ‘prayers’ are done in spitefulness. God won’t hear them. He is on MY side for telling the TRUTH. You, who wish to lie to God’s people, he will not hear. Again, no thanks to those prayers. They are nothing more than your personal billy club of revenge.

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    • To Frank Anderson

      Unfortunately, you are one of millions of people who pick and choose scriptures to defend outright sin and rebellion against God, while overlooking the obvious scriptures that condemn and rebuke it. Judging and rebuking sin are not one in the same. If homosexual sin is minor in your view, then why does God call it an abomination? Detestable?

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  10. I pray for you. Because Jesus said one thing “37 And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.
    38 This is the great and first commandment.
    39 And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself.
    40 On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”” Matthew 22:37-40

    Loving people doesn’t mean abusing their ideals of love.

    Also In Matthew 7:1-5
    “1 “Judge not, that you be not judged.
    2 For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and with the measure you use it will be measured to you.
    3 Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?
    4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when there is the log in your own eye?
    5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.”

    Do not judge others for their sin, it is not your place. And through out this entire piece there was a lot of judgement, an a lot of opinion. You will be judged in heaven and so will gay persons. But it’s not your place to Judge them, that is God’s place

    Try reading Jonah, after all the whole book is about God’s right to pass judgement and grant mercy.

    Good day sir.
    -a very gay follower Of the one true God-

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    • If you follow Christ, then you will obey him. If you follow the Great I AM, then you will obey him. Because I correct does not mean I do not love. In fact, my correction IS love. You, my friend, are in a constant state of intentional disobedience to Christ and to God. God forgives when we REPENT- not when we say, “Hey, I know you said this was wrong, but I think it’s fine. So, I’m smarter than you. But I also don’t want to die or go to hell, so could you please save me?”

      That is not the way it works. Jesus specifically defined marriage as between a man and a woman. And not because it was the norm of the day, but because God made us male and female. God knows the future. Had he wanted to include gay marriage, then he would have said so. The very fact that Jesus explained himself so clearly was intentional- because he DID know this way coming. And he wanted all of us to know his will.

      You are in the wrong. And you put your own understanding above God’s. I know for a fact that he does not look kindly upon that attitude.

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  11. No one will ever bring the kingdom of God down, I don’t see this as a challenge, but rather the last kick of a dying horse. Homosexuality will not bring victory to the devil and his angels, the devil will remain hungry for power which he will never get. Glory to God and to the Son of man. Rebel I bless you in the mighty name of our lord and savior Jesus christ.Amen

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    • Thank you Lesley! I will take that blessing! And no- it won’t bring the kingdom or heaven- or even earth day- it will just divide us into those who will obey God and those who will not. It is THE issue that will force polarization into these two camps. It will clarify our choice as human beings- to one another and to God.

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  12. Hi everyone, I just stumbled upon this blog, but I must say first of all that no one can speak for God except for Jesus. We can all speak for what we think about God or Jesus, but nothing is definite and nothing can truly be sure until we meet Jesus and God in the next life (although I see that you may think it not be a possibility for some because you probably believe in hell).

    Secondly might I add that the scripture everyone is referencing for their argument here is:

    a) Not from the oldest English translation (Was a whole different language back then! Some things can get misinterpreted! Besides, shouldn’t we be quoting from the most original source?)

    b) Probably used outside of the context meant for the verses surrounding them,

    c) Not from the bible printed in Latin, and …

    d) Not from the original text that was translated into Latin from Hebrew.

    So – If one was to make controversial arguments using bible verse as their proof, I would say you must learn Hebrew, read the original text, and then form your opinion (which is not god’s opinion I shall stress again) because only then will your opinion be more credible to the real scripture, and (if you want to believe) closer to god’s opinion.

    Jesus was all about love, and the religious leaders of his day hated that about him. They hated how he could love so freely. They crucified him for it. Don’t follow in Jesus persecutor’s footsteps. Follow in Jesus and love, don’t judge.

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    • What hogwash. The bible is not to be scrutinized with a microscope. Jesus said, “I speak plainly.” And indeed he did. By your logic, the Chinese and Africans would all need to learn Hebrew to receive the Word of God. Never have I heard such tripe. God is CLEAR and Jesus is CLEAR about marriage- it is between a man and a woman. And specifically because he made us man and woman. No Hebrew needed there. No subtlety there. Jesus was also clear that ALL sex- including heterosexual sex- outside of the marriage bond is adultery. Thus, homosexual sex is sin. Add the words of Jesus to all the many words of God which plainly said that homosexual sex is an abomination and you don’t get MY opinion, you get God’s opinion. Lastly, if God is God (and he is), then he is fully capable of writing a book for mankind that would last the test of time. Because if he can’t, then he isn’t God. And if he wrote a book that was purposely misleading, then he would be a capricious God, not a loving God. So, God IS capable and willing to write an accurate book that fully spells out his will. This means that Paul’s and Timothy’s clear admonitions about gay sex to be part and parcel of God’s opinion as well.

      To follow God’s words is not hate or judgement. It is obedience. Something you should try.

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      • Furthermore, the Pharisees hated Jesus because He claimed to be God (because He is). If they were to accept this of Jesus, they would have to admit their own sinfulness which they had gotten far too attached to.

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  13. You are a very wise woman. Homosexuality is a sin, I agree and the way you articulate your points are perfect! Straight from the scriptures, I couldnt have done better myself. So much insight in your blog. How would you suggest a Christian like myself go about studying the Bible to “show ourselves approved” like you have in this blog? Thanks!

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  14. To answer your question, “f this community was not ashamed of their behavior, why are they all so interested in negating the Bible’s words on the matter? Why, if they are so convinced that God approves of their behavior, can’t they exist peaceably with Jesus and those who follow him? Why the rabid hate?”
    BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU. STOP IMPOSING YOUR RELIGIOUS VIEWS ON OTHER PEOPLE.
    I know a lot of Catholics, Christians, Protestants, Jews, Hindus, etc, and most of them don’t go around imposing their opinions on the rest, like you are doing.
    And please, do not bother yourself in trying to reply to my comment because I won’t read it. Not interested. Thanks.

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    • Matias, I don’t remember ‘imposing’ my views on ANYONE. I do believe this is MY site- in essence, MAH house. And YOU are a visitor here and you came here to make a completely nonsensical statement! Rudely, too, I might add. But what is one to expect from someone who has rejected God? Logic?

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  15. I’ll be happier living in hell hanging out with all the happy people :).
    Don’t bother replying, I won’t read. Not interested. Thanks.

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  16. This is just so sad. How biased you are when it comes to homosexuality… your conservative ways makes you understand nothing. You think you do though. You think you understand everything that revolves around the LGBT community. I’m sure you’re a good woman… but I do hope your children don’t turn out to be homosexuals. Having a mother like you is something I honestly do not wish on them. I’m thankful that I was understanding towards my son when I first found out.

    I was like you at one point. Always thought certain things were black and white. Saw my religion as the good, and homosexuality fell into the category of bad. But then I started to travel, and trust me lady, I’ve been places you’ve only dreamed of going to on this planet. I’ve hiked across the wilderness of Alaska, ate from street vendors in Vietnam, swam in the deep seas of Tahiti, and mostly everywhere in between. And now I reside back in the small conservative town I was born in, slowly aging away alongside my husband.

    Traveling can do wonders to your mind. You no longer can see things in a two-dimensional way. You actually learn to view things from other peoples points, understand their suffering. It’s hard not to do so when you come across an Asian family of four who lost their house to a mudslide in Malaysia.

    You can understand the frustration I felt when I finally arrived home after many years of travel. These people, the ones I once called close neighbors, vaguely nodded when I had talked about a sweet old lady I met in Greece, who didn’t have any children, but took it upon herself to make pita bread every week for the orphan children living under the bridge near her home. Why didn’t these people care? Or at least show some interest in what was happening across the world- not about whether to order a double helping of pizza for little Susy’s sleepover.

    It horrified me to think that I was once these people, living an ordinary life, viewing things so typical for a Southern conservative woman. I’m thankful that I agreed to travel with my husband after retiring early.

    Maybe you need that? Yes, of course you do. You need to be tossed into the real world- where not all homosexuals are those two drags in your picture you so happen to be particularly discriminating against. Or course these people are going to dress rather strangely! It’s a parade after all! People often go to football games with their body completely covered in paint, half-naked, and yet nobody says anything about that…

    Where’s the pictures of two young homosexuals in love, while the world around them screams mutiny at them? Where’s the homosexual child lying on his deathbed, having overdosed on pills because he didn’t want to live in such a hateful and cruel world anymore?

    My son is a homosexual. Having raised four healthy children in total, I never expected one of them to be one. You could say I was rather hurt when I found out- not because of what he was, but because he came out in his late twenties, choosing to keep it from me for so long. I didn’t understand him at first- like you, when it came to homosexuality, the first thing that popped into my head was drag queens and sexual indecency.

    So there we were, my husband and I, attempting to conceal the shock we felt after our son told us. And to this day, I regret what I said next- ‘are you sure?’ and ‘maybe this is just one of those things people grow through sometimes’ or something like that. I was too deep in shock, but I do remember my words having a negative impact on him by the way he looked at me.

    My son, always the most polite and kindest out of all our children, something he surely attributed from his father, cut me off for the first time since his early teenager days. He stared me right in the eye and said, “Ma, don’t ask me if I’m sure, because I wouldn’t be sitting here shaking, risking both of your love for me, just to tell you something I’m not sure about.” And the shame I felt when he said those words… I could never ever forget the way he looked at me or how he said it, even if I wanted to. He honestly thought I would stop loving him! I remember not being able to say anything after that, and just started balling.

    My husband didn’t say anything the whole time. He just grabbed my son by the shoulder, and when I reached out a hand to stop him, thinking he was going to do something awful, he pulled our son close into a hug. I remember sobbing even harder and making my way around the table to join them.

    After that, we went steady. He told us he already came out to our other daughter and sons, and that they’ve known for quite a long time. I didn’t want him to tell the rest of the family- thinking they wouldn’t accept him, and I was only partially correct. The ones who didn’t, a handful of great aunts and my brother-in-law, well… we no longer call them family.

    He explained to us about everything. He was quite patient with me in particular, and it was in those times that I was constantly reminded how truly beautiful our son was. He was the glue to the family, someone who could keep our rather hectic family together.

    Our family is very much proud of him. He served in the marines for a long six years, and is now working as a construction manager. Not so long ago, he introduced us to his partner, a very nice young man with a dimpled smile. I’ll admit it- it took some time to get used to, but the way they look at each other is exactly how I look at my husband.

    As a mother, he is everything I could’ve ever asked for in a son and more. I would die for him a thousand painful deaths, and I know he would do the same for me in a heartbeat.

    Don’t you dare plaster something like homosexuality as something disgusting and making it seem as if God hated him. I know what you people are like, and let me tell you this- he is none of those things. He is a healthy and loving son who still visits his mother on her birthday and mother’s day- despite living thousands of miles away. And even if God didn’t love him, I always will.

    – Sophia

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    • Sophia, there are so many things wrong with your comment.

      (1) I have traveled all over the world. AND I have worked all over the world as an international management consultant for the telecommunications industry. My father was in the Army and I have LIVED in 23 different cities across 8 different countries. So there goes your grandiosity. What a joker.
      (2) Your arrogance is amazing. You think of your neighbors as ‘ordinary’ just because you traveled with your husband AFTER retirement. Traveling might have given you some new experiences but in no way does it mean that you interpreted those experiences in a good, positive, helpful or Godly way. Wisdom is not gained through a few trips with a bunch of grey heads in buses. It is gained through a FEAR of God- which it sounds like your neighbors have.
      (3) Your travels seem to have taught you something very bad: you deny God because you have seen the pagan customs of the ungodly around the world. The United States is a predominantly Christian nation- which is why you have been exposed to mostly decent behavior. Europe and many parts of Asia (I lived in Korea and Japan) are either atheist or Buddhist (pagan) and deny Christ. And little ol’ you, having stepped out of the sad, ‘ordinary’ lives of your poor neighbors, have decided that your new found experiences have made you more ‘worldly’ and sophisticated! And this causes you to reject your GOD! You make me laugh. How many insecure Americans have I met in my life? so many. Watching grey heads like you and your husband acting all ‘globe trotter’ with those fake serious expressions on your face- talking to locals about the nastiness of America, apologizing for not speaking their language, sucking up to waiters, talking about how Americans never travel outside the country, about how we (unlike them) are not taught any other languages, etc! Oh, my German friends and I used to laugh at the like of you! You are too dumb to love the country that made you. Hon, YOU embarrassed me constantly overseas.
      (4) Loving and obeying Christ and God is NOT a ‘religion’. There are many religions and they are all FALSE. You were a false Christian. You never knew Christ and you never knew God- for if you had, you would NEVER have left them. This also explains how your son chose the homosexual lifestyle- you never taught him the way of God and now he is cursed. So much lies on your shoulders, Sophia. Being ‘worldly’ is exactly the opposite of being a Christian. Christ’s words:

      “18“If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. 19If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. 20Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’b If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. 21They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the one who sent me. 22If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not be guilty of sin; but now they have no excuse for their sin. 23Whoever hates me hates my Father as well. 24If I had not done among them the works no one else did, they would not be guilty of sin. As it is, they have seen, and yet they have hated both me and my Father. 25But this is to fulfill what is written in their Law: ‘They hated me without reason.’

      (5) Lastly, and most grievously of all: you seem to think that YOUR love is more important and will do your son more good than GOD’S love. What a SELFISH woman you are. I am sure your son, when he is turned away from heaven and is crying bitter tears and gnashing his teeth in hell, will be SO glad that YOU loved him during his short time on this earth. I’m sure his mother’s love will be worth losing his trillions and trillions and trillions of years of pure joy in heaven with God.

      So. Sophia. I WILL dare to speak the biblical truth about homosexuality and I HOPE your son reads it and turns away from his path. Believe me when I tell you that by doing so, I have loved your son more than you have ever done.

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    • I can understand how parents feel who have a homosexual child, however they need to know, it is not us who are judging anyone for any reason, its God’s statements on morality, and we only bring the message, not the judgment. I believe God takes all situations into consideration, and basis his judgment on each individual on every sin, not just homosexuality , but in any case, he is the judge, not us.

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  17. You’re an evil woman. And no, I’m not gay. No, my child is not gay, nor is my grandchild gay. You’re just a mean, petty woman. Period. Yes, I’m judging . . . as have you. Thank you, my Good God, for spirituality . . . I have no desire to ever be like this woman. Ever. Why don’t you go preach on ways to make the world a better place, filled with love, kindness and understanding, as opposed to tearing people down? That would make you such a better, kinder, more loving person.

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    • Tammy, you make an accusation and yet give no reasons for it. My article lays out the biblical case against homosexuality. If you have a problem with that, talk to GOD about it. Right now, you are just shooting the messenger.

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  18. You do understand why they do those parades, right?

    That people as young as 10 years old are committing suicide because of the judgmental hate they get from you people. It’s supposed to be a sign of hope, that there are people out there who care about them.. How does that feel by the way? Knowing that you’re indirectly the cause of death upon millions of people?

    And not all of those gay pride parades are as ridiculous as the one you see in the photo. Some just involve average people, loving-life people by the way, just walking along the side of the road showing that they’re happy… Something many gays think is impossible because of people like you.

    I’m not gay. None of my family members are gay, that I know of anyways. But I’ve seen what bias can do to people.

    You’re going to read this and probably go “lololol” like you’ve done to the others. But lets face it- people are killing themselves because of your cause. They honestly think being dead is a better option than living… Can you blame them for it though? People like you spew hatred at them, narrow your eyes whenever you see them walk by, spat disgust at them in front of their children.

    I won’t give up on my lord and savior, but I will never be part of the group that causes the death of many innocence.

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    • Izzy, first: I am not part of a MOVEMENT. Second, when people kill themselves, it is for much deeper reasons and problems than because I post an article about the biblical truth on homosexual sex. If ten year olds are committing suicide, I promise you, it isn’t because they are GAY. I have kids that age. At ten years old, they are barely even sexually aware. Many don’t even know the facts of life at that age, let alone have a firm sexual identity that can then be impugned enough by society for long enough to wish to end their lives. They don’t watch the news. They don’t come into contact with adults with my opinion. They wouldn’t understand it even if they did. Unless they have been molested or raped. Thus, a normal 10 year old could not possibly have any clue about this so-called bias you speak of. Basically, you are speaking out of your butt.

      As for you ‘not giving up on your lord and savior,” you must be talking about someone other than Christ. Because you reject HIS words and those of his Father. It is not for YOU to ‘give up’ on them but it is for them to give up on you. If you continue to disrespect, disobey and misrepresent God, he will harden your heart. Which appears to be happening already. You can not say you love Christ and God and then proceed to deny their words and disobey their commands. If you don’t believe me, allow me to quote Jesus’ own words (if you are willing to ‘accept’ these):

      “15“If you love me, keep my commands. 16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will bec in you. 18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. 21Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”

      22Then Judas (not Judas Iscariot) said, “But, Lord, why do you intend to show yourself to us and not to the world?”

      23Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. 24Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.

      25“All this I have spoken while still with you. 26But the Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. 27Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives. Do not let your hearts be troubled and do not be afraid.

      28“You heard me say, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would be glad that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. 29I have told you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe. 30I will not say much more to you, for the prince of this world is coming. He has no hold over me, 31but he comes so that the world may learn that I love the Father and do exactly what my Father has commanded me.”- John 14: 15-28

      You don’t get to pick and choose what you want to hear. Wisdom is required to understand the extent of the bible’s words. But to deny that both God and Jesus directly spoke against ANY sex outside of male and female marriage is to LIE. And all lies come from Satan. Also, Jesus speaks of the Holy Spirit here that is given to those who love and OBEY Jesus. To those who have received the Holy Spirit, rebellion against Jesus’ & God’s words does not exist. We LOVE the living Word of God. And we WANT to serve him through obedience. The very fact that you deny the truth of their words and disobey them openly says that you do not have the Holy Spirit. And so, of course everything I say sounds foolish and wrong to you. But never think you are saved without the Holy Spirit. Until you accept that Christ is your sovereign Lord, you will not be saved. Even satan knows who Jesus is. But satan also will not bow down to his word. And so he will be destroyed. As you will be. Repent.

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  19. “Jesus Never Mentioned Homosexuality”

    When gays have birthdays, they don’t mention everything they don’t want but say positively what they do want.
    Likewise, Jesus didn’t negatively list every sexual perversion He knew mankind would invent but positively stated that marriage involves only a man and a woman!

    (Also Google or Yahoo “USA – from Puritans to Impure-itans.”)

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  20. SLR,
    Thank you for writing about this and for perfectly describing the Christian viewpoint on homosexuality, I am glad to read what you have said about this. You preach the truth! Whenever I speak to people about God’s view on homosexuality, I argue these same points, but people ask me, “It is also in the Bible not to judge. By opposing gay marriage and believing that homosexuality is wrong, aren’t you judging gay people? Don’t they have a right to be happy?” I am not sure what to say back when people ask me this, besides that scripture clear states homosexuality is an abomination. My views on homosexuality are based on what Jesus says in the Bible, but I definitely don’t have all the answers to questions people ask me. I just defend my faith.
    And i totally agree with what you said about children raised to homosexual parents. These children are raised to believe that homosexuality is not wrong.
    What confuses me is how people can call themselves devout Christians, yet agree with homosexuality and support it 100%, when the Bible tells us, in many scripture passages as you have shown, that it is wrong. One thing I know is that you can’t pick and choose the parts of the Bible you like, and disregard the rest!
    Anyway, thank you for this article, if anything it made me more secure on my position on homosexuality. God bless!

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    • Thanks Cece. That is exactly what I wish to do: provide the actual words of God and Jesus. People like to respond by saying that I hate homosexuals. I refer them to the Speaker of the words- God and Jesus. If they have a problem with these words and opinions, they should not shoot the messenger, but they need to take it up with God.

      Also, the Progressives today wish to say that those of us who believe in the Word of God HATE people or are bigots, racists, ignorant, etc. When I refer them to the words of God and Jesus, they can no longer claim that it is I who am those things. They must acknowledge that they are aiming those names at God and Jesus. In the end, they know that God is God. Although they are angry when I quote the scripture, it can only bring about GOOD in their lives- every Word of God is positive and good for us. I hate no one.

      What the progressives are trying to do is FORCE US to say that homosexual sex is GOOD, NATURAL, RIGHT and MORAL. They tell us to leave them alone when we are not bothering them! They are bothering us. They are the ones who want new laws, not us! They are the ones trying to persecute us with fines and jail time for simply speaking the words of God and Jesus. In Canada, it is a HATE CRIME to use the bible when saying that homosexuality is a sin! So, who is persecuting whom? I write on my own blog about my opinions. THEY come to ME and tell me to shut up. THEY call ME every name in the book. THEY impersonate me on FB and then go around saying foul things I would never say. THEY post my home address, phone number, my children’s names, etc on the internet- never me against them. The only ones who HATE are the militant homosexuals who hate God and Jesus FIRST and then us Christians second.

      the very best thing you can do, Cece, is to read your bible. Be armed with the true Word of God. Then you will be more effective in your witness to those around you. And then they can be saved too.

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    • If I were advocating the creation of ANY laws concerning homosexual sex, you would have a point. But as it were, I am not. Further, no Christian believes divorce is good- nor are we attempting to make other people’s speech about divorce ‘hate speech’. Everyone knows divorce is bad. Thus, no need to belabor the point.

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  21. But he said unto them, ” All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. For there are some eunuchs(HOMOSEXuals) which were SO born from thier mother’s womb: and there are some eunuchs which were made eunuchs of men…………………….. HE THAT IS ABLE TO RECEIVE IT LET HIM RECEIVE IT. Matthew 19:12. Jesus’s own words………. You are free,put away the guilt ! Some are born that way, some are made that way by others ! I knew two of my nephews were gay when they were 5 years old ! NO ONE chooses it !

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    • Marc- the term ‘eunuch’ doesn’t mean homosexual- that is your own translation. He was being asked about ABSTINENCE- not homosexual sex. Ironically, the verses you are speaking of are right AFTER Jesus defined marriage as between a MAN and a WOMAN! Here is the entire scripture. You will see that he is responding to the disciples who felt that since marriage was PERMANENT, they didn’t want to get married (lol!). They were referring to remaining bachelors- no sex, no marriage. When Jesus refers to them being ‘born that way’, he meant that they were not inclined toward sex. Apostle Paul wasn’t tempted by sex. He was driven for God his whole life. When he referred to them being made that way by other men, he meant that they were castrated (something they did back then). And then, there are those who do want sex but give it up so that they can dedicate themselves wholly to God’s work. By no means is there ANY implication that Jesus meant sex with OTHER MEN!

      3Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”
      4“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’a 5and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh ? 6So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”
      7“Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”
      8Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

      10The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”
      11Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12For there are eunuchs who were born that way, and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others—and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”

      And no where in the bible does it say that we are free and can put away the guilt- not the way you are implying. Jesus promises to forgive our sins. But he also told us what loving him equals. It equals OBEDIENCE to God’s commands. And his. We don’t get to just steal and steal and steal and steal and steal and expect to go to heaven, do we? No. First, there is ACKNOWLEDGMENT that we sinned (something the Progressive left refuses to admit) and then there is the petition to gain forgiveness- it is not automatic. We must ask for it. This signifies humility and acknowledgement of our need for Christ’s forgiveness to be right with God. Here are Jesus’ REAL words, ““15“If you love me, keep my commands. 16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will bec in you. 18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. 21Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”

      He also said, ” “21“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. ”

      22Then Judas (not Judas Iscariot) said, “But, Lord, why do you intend to show yourself to us and not to the world?”

      23Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. 24Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.”

      One can not sin repetitively and willfully and claim to love Christ or God. They are lying and will not find salvation. We all fall down. But our job is to apologize and try harder next time. Not throw all guilt away and never apologize at all!

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  22. i just cant understand why you can be secure of what you talk you are not the christ to can take decisión instead of him mayb christ said homosexuality is a sin but he Did not say homosexuals are a sin the laws if for condemn homosexuals BUT who is rely on the law will be entrance in My kingdom by the law who rely on me(JESUS) will entrance in My kingdom by their belief in me said Jesús

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    • Carlos, my entire point was that Christ said it was a sin. You agree. Therefore, we are in agreement. As for salvation, I didn’t speak about it, did I? Don’t combine my article with what you may have heard from others. Indeed, Christ did not come to condemn, but to save. ANYONE can enter the kingdom of heaven IF they acknowledge that Christ is their Lord and Savior. But one must be careful, Carlos. Jesus also said that we must obey his commands if we love him. One can not intentionally continue to sin and then claim to love Christ. Christ demands our WHOLE life, not just our sex life. So, really, that is a small complaint, is it not? Listen to Christ’s words here:

      “15“If you love me, keep my commands. 16And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will bec in you. 18I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. 21Whoever has my commands and keeps them is the one who loves me. The one who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love them and show myself to them.”

      22Then Judas (not Judas Iscariot) said, “But, Lord, why do you intend to show yourself to us and not to the world?”

      23Jesus replied, “Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them. 24Anyone who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.

      Ultimately, Carlos, everyone sins. But sexual immorality is worse than other kinds. See what Apostle Paul says about this, “15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! 16 Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.”[a] 17 But whoever is united with the Lord is one with him in spirit.[b]

      18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body. 19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.”

      Everyone fails, Carlos. You, me, everyone. And God loves us all. Jesus has promised to forgive us. But that doesn’t give us a free license to just sin at will. WHEN we sin, we must confess it to Jesus and ask for forgiveness. And we will be forgiven- you, me, everyone. Desire might not be a choice. But sex is a choice. I can honestly tell you that I could give up sex in a heartbeat if it meant being even closer to my God. Since giving my life to Christ’s service- my ENTIRE life- I have never been happier and more fulfilled. Things of this world interest me less and less and the only thing I really care about is helping others, like you, to also find the same joy that I have. Carlos, no one is perfect. But we must TRY to do God’s will. ALL of us have sin and temptation. You do not suffer any more than any other sinner. Come back to Christ. He is waiting.

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  23. I find it funny that you are going out of your way to post links to this with the comment “save your selves” on gay pages. (Btw yourself is one word. Studying the factual first hand knowledge in the dictionary on your off time may help with that.)
    However, your interpretation of a translation of a censored, edited, and mass reproduced book written hundreds of years ago by uneducated men who thought anything they could not explain was magic is…entertaining.

    So I suppose you follow the hundreds of laws in the Bible daily, correct? Never will anyone leave this Earth with a bad taste in their mouth from how you have treated them? You are the most Christ-Like person you know, yes?

    No? It’s alright, sweetheart. Us gays may seem threatening to you but I promise, we really aren’t that bad. Sure, we may be hardened by the way in which some of the people who believe in Christianity, the second youngest major world religion continues to treat us, but rest assured never will the day come that the gays go after your rights. The idea of a heterosexual intercourse (married or not) is utterly disturbing to me, a lesbian, but you won’t see me judging you.

    You see, despite what you said about our community, us gays have a strong one thanks to people like you. Through the gay bashing we come together. Through the prejudice we stand tall. Through the slander, judgement and disgust we receive from people like yourself, we band together and accomplish wonderful things. Had you all let us be we would have been just fine.

    Does my marriage to my wife harm your marriage? Do you argue with your husband because somewhere I am telling my wife that I love her and kissing her goodnight? When judgement day comes, do you think God will judge you based off of your actions, or the ones that were out of your control around you? Do you think He will condemn you to hell for accepting that an otherwise hopeless parentless child now belongs to a loving home? Are you against single parenting as well then, since uncle/aunt whoever will never be enough?

    No one is telling you that you have to change your beliefs. That’s the awesome aspect of the Separation of Church and State! It separates church and state. Believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster for all I care. All the world is asking is that you not be a bigot. It wasn’t too long ago that people were using the same book you are reading to justify slaves and marriage of a rapist and their victim.

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    • Heather, I NEVER to to gay pages. I hate to tell you, but those are FAKE pages set up by…. HOMOSEXUALS who hate me! lol! next time, try clicking on those fake ‘Short Little Rebels’ and see where it leads. You will find the satire, parody page set up by trolls intent of mischief. You will never, ever find me going anywhere but my own pages to proclaim God’s message. It is YOUR OWN PEOPLE who are impersonating me, lying to you and leading you to this article! I knew they were using my name, but I didn’t realize they were posting this link too. Well, GOOD! Although their intent was bad, the result can only be good! I was WONDERING why this article’s traffic was on the uptick! Thanks, trolls!

      Heather, the bible has been interpreted many times- but from the original scripts. That is because languages change. The original texts remain the same- thus, the word, “original’. But translations must be done into all the various languages in the world. That doesn’t make them erroneous. That just means there are many languages that speak the truth of the Bible. Also, the versions in English are not built one upon the other. All the reputable Bible translations in English have been done from the original Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek. English has changed- we don’t say ‘thee’ or ‘thy’ anymore- they did during King Jame’s day, but not now. Thus, the new versions are done to keep up with modern language changes. Again, the meaning doesn’t change. Your argument, used erroneously many times by those wishing to disregard God’s commands, is just illogical and false.

      How is my article ‘gay bashing’? I state that homosexual sex is immoral according to God and to Jesus and I quote the scripture to prove it. I am not the one who made those determinations. God and Jesus are. Your argument is with THEM, not me. You can criticize me for BELIEVING they mean all for our good, but you can’t condemn me for making the law.

      Also, you bring up the ‘victimless sin’ argument- that your sexual immorality does not hurt me. Well, first, I never really made the argument (though I could) that it does harm me. I made the argument that it was ‘immoral’ according to the bible. But for the sake of completion, I will remark shortly on that point. It does hurt me because of two things: 1) immoral behavior always degrades society when society embraces it as ‘good’ and right and moral. When society is degraded, my children will have a more difficult time being moral themselves. If they are surrounded by theives who think stealing is good, right and fair, then they will be harder pressed to NOT steal. 2) If people wanted to sin in private and do it quietly, no one would care- it would be between you and God. Unfortunately, Progressives are using homosexual sin as the means to divide this nation. They are forcing their agenda, through LAWS, down our throats. You say that ‘you have to change your beliefs’ and that is a lie. You do want us to change our beliefs. Example: I write on MY page only about my beliefs. Do you let me just have them? No, you come here and tell me to shut up. You and your political allies are attempting, even now, to make Christian speech into ‘hate speech’ when it is nothing of the sort. In Canada, it is considered ‘hate speech’ to even quote the Bible when saying that homosexuality is a sin according to God. Since when can I not say my opinion??? Should we make a law that homosexuals can’t call Christians ‘bigots’, ‘racists’ and other juicy opinions?

      Also, the last funny thing is that you dare to compare yourselves to SLAVERY. Now that one makes me laugh. Slaves were people who had no control of their situation. They were forced into manual labor with no pay and no choice. They were treated as property- literally. Their families were literally sold away from mothers and fathers. Husbands & wives were sold away from each other. And YOU consider yourselves to be in their situation??? Really???

      YOU choose to sin. I say nothing more than it IS a sin. It is not I who am trying to make ANY new laws. Nor am I the one trying to CHANGE any laws. YOU ARE!!!! You are imposing on ME. Not the other way around.

      But that is the way of satan. He does the dirty deed and then turns around and says that the victim is actually the predator!

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  24. SLR
    After reading your post, I was intrigued by the scripture you used. Most accurate. As I read the post of most people, I was sadden by the ones who call them,selves Christians and yet have no knowledge of him. They have exchanged the truth for a lie.they walk in darkness. Have they not read ” it was from the beginning male and female.” That was Jesus’ answer to homosexuals. Have they not read that ” judge not lest you be judged ” means Christians upholding Christians. Not about sin. No one is throwing a stone at the gays. God clearly tells us who will go to heaven and who won’t. What saddens me is the people who joke about hell. Have they not read in old and new testaments, it is tour met, so I don’t know where they get partying. There is no God there so there is no attribute of Him there. Earth is better then hell. He’ll you don’t pay a time and then get out, see that’s why Jesus came so we don’t have to go there. There is no water, because our souls are eternal, maggots eat at them forever. Worms never die! So when Christians talk about sin including homosexuals it’s because we do love you! We want to see God at work in their lives. You can’t Love someone else unless you know the source of Love. That’s why the homosexuals HATE Christians.

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    • Jen, beautifully said. That IS why we address homosexuality- to save people from death and torment. Not only those who practice it, but those who reject God because they put their own wisdom and love above his. When they do this, they separate themselves wholly from Life, true love and eternity. This is what make us sad. And sometimes angry. I hate seeing so many young people reject God and life because they are told lies. They need the truth and I will work till I drop to tell them the truth. Even if they hate me for a time. Better that than they should perish.

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  25. Jen says:
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    June 27, 2013 at 10:39 pm
    The Bible consistently tells us that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1-13; Leviticus 18:22; 20:13; Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6:9). Romans 1:26-27 teaches specifically that homosexuality is a result of denying and disobeying God. When people continue in sin and unbelief, God “gives them over” to even more wicked and depraved sin in order to show them the futility and hopelessness of life apart from God. 1 Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexual “offenders” will not inherit the kingdom of God.

    God does not create a person with homosexual desires. The Bible tells us that people become homosexuals because of sin (Romans 1:24-27) and ultimately because of their own choice. A person may be born with a greater susceptibility to homosexuality, just as some people are born with a tendency to violence and other sins. That does not excuse the person’s choosing to sin by giving in to sinful desires. If a person is born with a greater susceptibility to anger/rage, does that make it right for him to give into those desires? Of course not! The same is true with homosexuality.

    However, the Bible does not describe homosexuality as a “greater” sin than any other. All sin is offensive to God. Homosexuality is just one of the many things listed in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 that will keep a person from the kingdom of God. According to the Bible, God’s forgiveness is just as available to a homosexual as it is to an adulterer, idol worshipper, murderer, thief, etc. God also promises the strength for victory over sin, including homosexuality, to all those who will believe in Jesus Christ for their salvation (1 Corinthians 6:11; 2 Corinthians 5:17; Philippians 4:13).

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    • Actually, the bible does say that SEXUAL sin is worse than other sins. Heterosexuals admit that porn, rape, orgies, lust, promiscuity, lewdness and adultery are sins. Thus, they don’t require special attention. But progressives are trying to say that homosexual sex IS good, right and moral. This is the reason to address it. Here is what Apostle Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 6: “15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! 16 Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.”[a] 17 But whoever is united with the Lord is one with him in spirit.[b]

      18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body. 19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.”

      There is something more awful about sexual sins than other sins. It is more degrading than others. But the penalty for ALL sin is the same for sure: death.

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      • We all need to resist being judgmental, and leave that to God, for he is a much more forgiving, understanding and fair judge than any human could be; we can not even judge ourselves fairly. I am so thankful to Jesus for his loving sacrifice for all of us, that if we accept it, and him, we can have eternal life. Jesus is our true hero in every sense of the word!

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  26. Uhm, Jesus didn’t say “marriage is between a man and a woman”, Jesus was asked a question about a man and a woman and responded using the asker’s terminology.

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    • Wrong, Elli. Here is his quote: “4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[a] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’[b]? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

      This was in reference to DIVORCE. He is stating here that BECAUSE he made them male and female, they are to be united in ONE FLESH. And that this ONE FLESH shall not be separated by man. Thus, sex is for men and women because we were created male and female. AND sex is a permanent bond- he emphasizes this with the words ‘ONE FLESH’. So, sex is for marriage (it’s permanent and never to be broken) and it is between a man and a woman. NOT because of tradition or culture- but because we were specifically created MAN and WOMAN.

      He further emphasizes that ALL sex outside of the marriage bond is ADULTERY- another sexual sin. He said, ” 8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

      Therefore, not only is sex to be a permanent bonding between a male and a female- BECAUSE they were created thus, but all sex outside of marriage is adultery. And that is for HETERO sexuals. Homosexual sex is outside the male/ female marriage and thus must be sexually immoral.

      The meaning is clear, Elli. Your statement makes no sense. Jesus was extremely clear for a purpose: so that when this day came, there could be no doubt.

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      • Very well said, SLR, exactly correct. Jesus assumed people would know the answer, when he told them he had not come to change the law, but to fulfill it; the law had, already, been established by God in the old testament, so there was no reason for Jesus to address it again. It still stood as valid, and still does; God is the same, today, tomorrow, & always, regardless of how people try to change his meaning and his laws. I have seen how defensive people can get when faced with a truth they do not want to acknowledge.

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  27. Love your double talk answer , another fake ” christian ” hipp-o-crite making judgement’s. Who in the hell do you think you are lady. I pity you on judgement day when you will be held to the same judgement you have done. Get off the cross we need the wood. Try spending your day feeding the poor visting the sick etc. You seem to have toooo much time on your hands ! And given your flip short answer on divorce. I will guess your on your second or third marriage and preaching on family vaules, i could see god giving your a gay child to teach you a lesson about love, he does that YOU KNOW

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    • Double talk? What I always love about those who come here to criticize is that they never do anything other than call names. You don’t bring any REASONING into your comments. You asked me if I would make divorce ‘illegal’. I pointed out that it is a non issue as I don’t want to make homosexuality an issue. You don’t bring a counter argument because, well, there ISN’T a counter argument. So, out come the names. It is really the only thing you have left, isn’t it? As for my marriage- nope, bad guess. I am on my first and only and we are both diggin’ it! As God doesn’t ‘give’ anyone a gay child, he would hardly begin with me.

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    • What ‘judgement’ did I ‘do’? I quoted JESUS and God. THEY judge, not me. It amazes me that you can’t or won’t see that. Take it up with the ones who SPOKE those words. Not with me. I’m just the messenger.

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  28. Most of Wesley’s comment (incredibly long tirade based on ‘original’ translation issues, etc) have been deleted for our sanity. I will, however, address this part of his tirade:

    “What influences lead us to new ways of understanding Scripture? New scientific information, social changes, and personal experience are perhaps the greatest forces for change in the way we interpret the Bible and develop our beliefs. For many centuries, the Christian Church’s attitude toward human sexuality was very negative: sex was for procreation only, not for pleasure; was such a mans world isnt it !!!and we know now that it is for both….. women were so suppressed!!! and slaves !!! slaves were considered property!!! omg really!!! lol to be owned by males!!!!; Many churches teach that women should be subordinate!!! to men, men continue to permit forms of discrimination!!!! against people of color & gender!!!, and condemn homosexuals!!!. Because of what the BIBLE WAS INTERPRETED TO SAY in there time in there day!! They say that all homosexual acts are sinful, often referring to their interpretation of scripture. again make sure you know what the true meaning of the word is !!!”

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    • Wesley, your comment says that mankind has interpreted the bible wrong for centuries. True. But no matter how you parse up your Greek, Aramaic and Hebrew words, the term ‘sodomite’ and ‘homosexual’ are correct translations. You say that the word, ‘homosexual’ is a new word. So? That is why the first English interpretations used the term ‘sodomite’. And we all know what that means. There is NO DOUBT that the bible condemns homosexuality. And lastly, Jesus most certainly DID define marriage as between a man and a woman (BECAUSE God created them man and woman- not cultural mores)- also that ALL sex outside this marriage bond is adultery and a sin. NO ONE at that time doubted that sex BEFORE marriage was a sin. So, since homosexual sex is outside of the marriage as defined by Jesus, it too is a sin. And we need now mince words on that. His words, given ON PURPOSE, were to leave no doubt for today’s world. It is clear as daylight WHY Christ said this. Because of word parsers like you.

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      • There will, always, be people who try to re-write the Bible to fit what they want to believe, or take it out of context, choose only verses which they think support their concept of truth. I think that is one reasons Jesus said their ability to invent reasons in an attempt to justify their beliefs, amazed him. Not exact wording, but meaning is the same.

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  29. I agree that God established his laws in the Old Testament, therefore it was not necessary for Jesus to re-address them, as they were/are still valid. As for divorce, I believe there are incidents so heinous, it would make it, not only valid to divorce, but mandatory to get out of the situation. As for re-marriage, I believe it is possible God would accept your 2nd marriage to a normal and nice person under those circumstances, and, possibly, even arrange your meeting them, as the 1st marriage was a farce. We are given free choice, and, sometimes are given situations to deal with as a learning experience.

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    • Well, Ladybug, while God has a great compassion for people, the bible is still clear on this matter. Divorce is only permitted for the case of adultery. One can LEAVE a dangerous person and remain apart from them, but divorce is not ok- thus remarriage is not ok. But God forgives all if we confess. If someone does divorce and remarry, they must bring it to God and ask for forgiveness. The very best part of Christ is his willingness to forgive us for anything if we but confess and ask for it.

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      • Absolutely agree that, through Jesus, any sin can be forgiven, if we admit we sinned, and are, truly, sorry, and do not put our self in a position to allow it to happen again. The exception, according to the Bible is the sin against the holy spirit, blasphemy. As for divorce, I agree, as well, on God’s view of it, and was referring only to a husband/wife’s infidelity, but the case that inspired me to be adamant about a situation very heinous, as to justify divorce, was one I knew of where the dad in the family was molesting his daughter, practically, since she was a baby, until around age six, when the mom became aware of it, and told the husband, he was lucky she only divorced him, since divorce was legal, murder isn’t. He was arrested. Don’t really know the outcome of his arrest, as we lost touch with the family, when she moved out of state; kept in touch for awhile, but did not speak often of a painful subject. She needed to get her daughter away from that situation, and to help her get therapy for the trauma she had been subjected to. She has since re-married, to a kind, loving man, and from all appearances, they are a happy family. The daughter calls him dad, and is, finally, free to speak of her experience to anyone who needs help in that area, but, mostly, is just happy to put it behind her, and move on, but, according to the grapevine, never wants to see or hear from the other man who she will not accept as ever having been a dad. He has since died, I was told, and the ex prays, that God will have mercy on his soul. She does not know why he had such an issue, but hopes he repented.

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  30. I have tried to post, but they show, then disappear into infinity, and am told my password is invalid. I have tried to follow prompts to fix it, without success. This probably won’t post, either. Oh well, like your blog, anyway, and agree.

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  31. Let he who is unrighteouses be unrighteouses still, let he who is filthy be still, let he who is ungodly be ungodly still. Short little rebel, let the wicked and the unbeliever’s be who they’re intil the day of the appear’s before them, do not let evil take root in your heart because they speak against you and the gospel you’re bringing them. But have great understanding and wisdom threw The Lord of spirits and his son yeshua the messiah, and know that this is nothing more than a fiery trail that has come to test you, because the spirit of lord dwell’s upon you. Short little rebel, when your enemies speak against you, remove the dust from your feet, and keep moving on toward’s other’s who need to hear about their coming salvation from the gospel of The Lord our savior, because your enemies has fallen death ear’s to the word’s of The Lord their god. May peace and multitude be multiplied upon you dear sister threw the father, threw the son, and the Holy Spirit, and know also sister, that those who believe in the messiah are not Christian, Catholic, Baptist, Muslim, Jews, Gentiles, male or female, we’re all one in him.

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    • Well, I agree with the entire statement except the last. By definition, those who believe in Christ are Christians. However, there are many who claim this title who are not Christians. I understand where you are coming from, though.

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  32. “Sexual identity and sexual role modeling are almost 100% learned in the home as children soak in everything between their parents. They decide what they want to be as a man or woman and what they don’t want to be- all by watching their parents’ interactions.”

    So does that mean that gay people are learning to be gay from straight parents?

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    • While the statement ‘one learns from the parents’ is true, it does not necessarily follow that if you choose to disobey your parents or if your parents failed at their job as parents that you will learn well. Nice try, though.

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      • Your self-righteous and unfortunately ignorant statement is quite sickening. I understand there is point in arguing with you, BUT experience is the best teacher. While I don’t wish for it to happen, but it would a valuable lesson for you to end up with a gay son or daughter.

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      • MY statement is ‘self righteous’ and ‘ignorant’? I think you mean to say that Jesus, the Son of God, is ‘self righteous’ and ‘ignorant’. Which, in that case, puts you in jeapardy of hell. I surmise by your statement that one of your children is engaged in homosexual behavior- or that you are currently engaged in it? Listen. Sex, like every other human action, is a choice. No one forces anyone to have sex with anyone (outside of rape). These are all choices we make. We are in full control of those choices. And guess what? You can make a different choice any time you want to. So, there is no such thing as BEING ‘gay’. It is not inherent in your make up. You choose what you lust for. It really isn’t that deep. You lust and you choose to entertain that lust. God said no to that lust. But you want what you want and then reap the consequences. And then, like you, blame others when things get miserable. You need to change your choices and your life will improve beyond your wildest dreams. Sex simply isn’t everything.

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  33. Good job Little Rebel. Keep on quoting the word. So far everything I’ve read that you have written is right on. Thanks a lot!

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  34. SLR, found the scripture where it speaks of not getting involved in controversy/meaningless arguments. Titus 3:9, 2nd Timothy 2:23 these are just two, and there are several versions of the same, depending on which version of the Bible. It speaks of just avoiding getting into arguments over controversial subjects with people who will just argue, and we should not get into lengthy confrontations with them, as it is pointless. That seems to be the general meaning. All I did was go to my search engine, and type in “What the Bible says about getting into controversial subjects”

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    • Ladybug, you need to be careful when doing such a Google. You will get verses taken completely out of context. Instead, you need to STUDY the bible. I went to the verses you quoted and put the entire context around them. When you look at the whole thing, it is clear that Paul was trying to tell them to avoid useless arguments over meaningless details and minutia. HOWEVER, he most certainly does point out two people who have parted from the Truth and he does this boldly. He also tells them to WARN people twice about their sins against God. And THEN leave them. (do you think the people & their friends & family would not argue back with them?) He tells them to focus on being INSTRUCTIVE, not argumentative. That is what I do here. I do not argue with people over trivialities- not all controversy, but FOOLISH ones. Homosexuality and divorce are not trivial. Nor is sexual misconduct of any sort. Even Paul firmly outlines the severity of sexual sin. Thus, the verses you picked do not apply here. In addition, if that were what Paul meant (ie, avoid all controversy) then why did he also lay out the exact way to CONFRONT those in the church who were openly committing adultery? He involved the church leadership in this. Is that not something that will cause ‘controversy’ or argument in the church? And yet, it had to be done to preserve the Body of Christ.

      Ladybug, if you simply take one verse out of the entire ‘lecture’ or story of the bible, how can you possibly understand it’s meaning? Could you do that with any college professor’s lecture or out of any book or story? No. One must read the entire bible and THEN see what it is trying to tell us.

      Here is the problem with just Googling like you did: many people are hoping to get around certain sticky points about their lives and they want to use the Bible to do it. Example: homosexuals ALWAYS use ‘Judge not lest you be judged.” But they ALWAYS fail to put the entire speech Jesus gave around this which clearly shows that we are not to be practicing the same sin as the person we are correcting (in other words, be a hypocrite) and we are not to be unfair or feel superior to them. And he most certainly does tell us to help take the speck out of our brother’s eye. He didn’t end with ‘judge not’. He said also, ‘by the same measure you judge, you will also be judged.” This is a warning. Not an order to never judge. And yet, homosexuals Googling the bible verses they want never include the full context.

      This is just manipulation.

      We must all take the time out of our lives to READ the bible- not verse by verse- but book by book. Only then can we fully understand the author’s intent.

      Here are the verses you quoted in context:

      (Titus 3: 9-11) “And I want you to stress these things, so that those who have trusted in God may be careful to devote themselves to doing what is good. These things are excellent and profitable for everyone. 9 But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless. 10 Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them. 11 You may be sure that such people are warped and sinful; they are self-condemned.”

      (2 Timothy 2: 14-26) 14 Keep reminding God’s people of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen. 15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth. 16 Avoid godless chatter, because those who indulge in it will become more and more ungodly. 17 Their teaching will spread like gangrene. Among them are Hymenaeus and Philetus, 18 who have departed from the truth. They say that the resurrection has already taken place, and they destroy the faith of some. 19 Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness.”

      20 In a large house there are articles not only of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay; some are for special purposes and some for common use. 21 Those who cleanse themselves from the latter will be instruments for special purposes, made holy, useful to the Master and prepared to do any good work.

      22 Flee the evil desires of youth and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart. 23 Don’t have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. 24 And the Lord’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. 25 Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth, 26 and that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil, who has taken them captive to do his will.

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      • I read the entire scripture, but only mentioned the parts that I had, specifically, addressed previously concerning avoiding controversy/ arguments with nonbelievers, so saw no reason to quote the entire scripture, as I figured anyone looking it up would read it anyway.

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      • No, never a divorce for me, but have friends who were. They had their reasons, I’m sure, and I have the belief that God judges us individually, not a blanket judgment of everyone.

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  35. There is nothing wrong with encouraging full acceptance of homosexuality and bisexuality in society. It certainly won’t hurt anyone. It should be seen as normal and equal to heterosexuality, because it is! A huge benefit to society is that same-sex couples can adopt babies to give them a loving home and family.

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    • Verberat, please. What you mention as beneficial to society is actually child abuse to the adopted children. To intentionally put innocent children in the Godless homes of homosexuals is morally wrong. Furthermore, as the vast majority of human beings are HETEROSEXUAL (actually, all of them are- but most OBEY their natural inclinations), you are intentionally putting them into a sexually dysfunctional situation where they are deprived of sexual role models. As our sexual identities are one of the major definers of who we ARE, this is child abuse.

      The term NORMAL has a meaning. It means- the MAJORITY- that giant bell curve in the middle. Those who choose to engage in aberrant sexuality are technically ABNORMAL. So you are wrong there.

      As for it not ‘hurting’ anyone, again, you are dead wrong. It separates man from God. Almost ALL those who practice homosexuality have also rebelled against God due to their shame before him. This deprives them of their joy in THIS life, but also the trillions and trillions of years of TRUE LIFE they were meant to have. It is a death sentence. So, it does hurt people. Most especially those who engage in it.

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      • So glad I found your site. I love seeing both sides of the discussion. I’m blessed to be on Gods side. My church is at a crossroads right now and I needed this to keep my guard up against the lies which try to draw us away from faith. Thank you!!

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  36. I wish I had read this article first and not the one “love the Sinner and Hat the Sin”. Here you did not ‘knock anyone on their butt’. You did not beat anyone up with God’s Word. You simply laid it as the bare truth.
    there is one small thing that I would disagree on. You wrote, “As for Gay Marriage, I view this as purely political”. I view it as purely Satan. I see this as part (a large part) of a very complex plan to destroy. You are correct, it is an attack upon the family which in turn an attack upon the nation. Once the influence of the family has been totally destroyed, the nation will be so weaken that it will not be able to withstand even the smallest desires of the enemy.
    Does not the thought of it not make every God loving person want to weep?

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      • If you honestly believe people choose to be ridiculed, hated, ostracized by their families and communities, insulted and beaten to death while being called “faggot” so that they don’t have to get married, then you’re not thinking clearly. I’m as straight as arrow and don’t want marriage, so I simply won’t get married. What a novel idea, huh? Meanwhile, gay people are fighting for their right to marry. Interesting. Christians are destroying the church by preaching love while practicing hate, and people are no longer scared stupid by iron-fisted law. I’m sure you’re a good person, but please don’t use arguments you don’t understand. I came here looking for a reason to like Christians, but you have made me want to spit with your use of inane rhetoric. I digress because it is impossible to battle anyone that uses a single source of contradictory information. “Because God said so” is what it boils down to

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      • First, it is a fiction that homosexuals get beat up. Sorry. I have lived in too many cities around the world to buy into that kind of emotionally charged language. Gays strut proudly throughout the world- kind of like they own the place. You say that Christians project hate. You only say that because we say what is right and what is wrong. And you don’t want to hear about it. You want to interpret ‘love’ as people who simply agree with everything you do. Or what others do. Some things are wrong. and they are outlined by none other than God. It is HE who said those things. So if you are looking for Christians to ‘like’, you will never find one- unless they are a very, very weak Christian! A strong Christian, by definition, thinks that the bible is the full and inspired Word of God. And that God never changes. Thus, the words are still relevant. Homosexual sex is a sin. According to God. As documented in the bible. So please stop saying that ‘bad’ Christians project hate. And that if we were ‘better’ Christians, people like you would love us and come to church. Not true at all. You are just looking for someone to blame for your disobedience and denial of Christ in your life.

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  37. If mankind spent as much time loving and caring for each other as they did attempting to condemn and damn those they found immoral and in disagreement with their own standards of living. What a wonderful world it would be. I find your tendency to condemn everyone who disagree’s with your position not only immoral but in violation of your own religion. Jesus never said ANYTHING condemning homosexuality.. That was Paul, and even then, he didn’t refer to homosexuals, he spoke of pederasty. Polls indicate that this is as common among heterosexuals as it is among Homosexuals. In fact, current polls indicate that only 20% of male homosexuals currently practice pederasty, a percentage lower than heterosexuals.

    Love they neighbor. Judge not lest ye be judged. Live and let live. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Sorry, I find your judgement of others to validate your own “PIOUSNESS” to be SICK and counter to the teachings of Christ. Quit pointing fingers at others… Look at yourself instead. Remember that judging the sins of others for the purpose of taking vengeance on a another person is frankly against the bible’s teachings. Vengeance is MINE says the lord. It is wonderful to do the Lord’s work, but punishing the sins of others is NOT the job of the believer. You simply miss the message of Christ’s teachings. HATE, PREJUDICE, BIGOTRY and JUDGEMENTALISM is not the teachings of CHRIST! .

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    • Rod, how’s the business going? Thought so. Anyway, since you are not a Christian, it is also plain to see that you don’t study the bible. The word, ‘pedastry’ is not a real word. Don’t have a clue what you mean, but I detect that you practice some form of homosexuality and that you really hate to hear any scripture that condemns it. I gave you JESUS’ own words and yet you say he never addressed it. What can I say? Those who will not see, will not see. Repetition is useless.

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  38. There is nothing wrong with gay marriage or adoption it is not child abuse there are homosexuals who are Christian take my cousin for example she is a daughter of God and she says so. I find nothing wrong with it… And the Old Testament doesn’t really Apply anymore. Do you eat shellfish…well that’s against God’s law in the Old Testament but I don’t see Christians trying to shut down Red Lobster…seriously people grow a heart and stop being so narrow minded. I haven’t read anything in the bible about Jesus talking about homosexuals please just stop. And understand that God made us who we are, and I know God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve but that was only so we could populate…look we are populated what do you know, so now we have freedom to live our lives, in God’s eyes we are in his children and you love your children no matter what

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    • Kay, you are wrong in a very major way. First, of course the Old Testament is still as valid as it was when it was written. Even Jesus said so. HOWEVER, Jesus’ life, death and resurrection FULFILLED many of the laws of the Old Testament that were required for a Jew to be ‘saved’. All those rituals, rites and sacrifices that had to do with cleansing, atonement and honoring God have been FULFILLED completely and are no longer needed. We honor God by accepting and believing in his Son. We are cleansed permanently by the blood of Jesus and we are saved by Christ’s grace in offering to raise us from the dead and to bear witness to God, our father, that we are righteous because of our faith. The 10 commandments are still alive and well- and those are in the Old Testament. The moral dictates of God in the Old Testament are alive as well. Jesus confirmed this by saying, 4“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’a 5and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’b ? 6So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”- Matt 19.

      Jesus defined marriage and he did it in a way that can not be misunderstood. Marriage is between a man and a woman BECAUSE they were made male and female. Not because of social norms of the day. So, Jesus weighed in. So, you are wrong and you are actively disobeying Christ and God in this matter. In fact, homosexuality is a curse that God has laid upon those who reject his name and refuse to give him thanks for all they have. It is not that I don’t have a heart. It is BECAUSE I have a heart that I tell you the truth. God TOLD us to tell the truth to those who are sinning grievously against him- because they are going to DIE. We, as Christians, need to help people AVOID things that will kill their souls!! Don’t you see that? In any case, those are God’s and Christ’s words. IF they are cruel, you need to take it up with God. Not me. I am merely the messenger trying to help people avoid death.

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      • Sorry, but We are living under GRACE, if you live under the Law, you are constantly condemned because Jesus came with the GIFT of GRACE unmerited favor…. People should re-read ROMANS… and the letters of the apostle Paul, right there it says that living under the law after Jesus came, voids the reason why Jesus came in the first place…

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      • Sorry, but though we are SAVED by grace, it does not mean we no longer strive to obey God’s and Jesus’ commands. In fact, Jesus told us that to love him is to obey him. The fact that you responded with this truth to my response above, which was to say that the entire Old Testament is as valid as it ever was, implies that you believe that BECAUSE we are saved by grace, we can continue to sin without endangering our salvation. But you are wrong. If you are indeed saved, then your life will reflect it as you will WISH to obey God’s commands. You won’t consider it a free ticket to sin. I deleted the last part of your message which advises a television pastor. I am not here to advertise for some rich evangelist.

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  39. Hey, people! I read quite a bit of the comments above and all I have to say is… Wow! Short Little Rebel, you are the first person I’ve “met” who analyses the Bible to that extent. I am very happy to see that there are people who are willing to give their time for this purpose. We all need to know exactly what we are talking about. Now that we know about the Gospel, though, what do we do? I mean, the common belief is that homosexuality is a condition that cannot be changed, except according to and for those who actually believe in Christ and trust Him. People end up killing themselves because they are cornered between what their body tells them and what the Bible tells them, or simply because they suffer from very bad treatment because of their homosexuality. This is just to sad! They lose hope in life because some people are trying to teach them real Hope through God in a way that’s hurtful or because they have yet to understand the perfect Love the Christian path leads to. It kinda feels like hope killing hope… I also want to add that I don’t think that being evil and sinful is the aim of homosexual people. They just understand things as best as they can. It is a very earthly manner to see things and thus is likely to make them blind to the fact that God really is the only one essential to humans, but it also serves them as a defense mechanism. A lot of them were so hurt that they respond accordingly with an amplified need to be right, to feel normal, and to feel that there is nothing wrong with what they do. They want at all cost to disprove those who hurt them. The only solution I see to this issue is to make them understand the logic behind the Christian sayings (although it will never be complete without a real experience of God’s Love), that we don’t want to hurt them but rather that we are concerned about their fate because of those sayings, meaning that we work for them and not against them (as they might feel), and finally TONNES OF PRAYERS!!! Pray people, pray! I beg of you! We are not the ones who can save them, the ones who can get rid of their blindness, God is. We can reach their minds through our words and actions but only God converts the heart. So ask him again and again! Without end! So that they may be saved too.

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    • JL, that is one of the kindest ways I have ever heard anyone talk about why those who engage in homosexuality are so hostile. But I have to disagree that they only reason they are hostile is because someone used the bible in a harsh way. I completely and totally believe that the reason they are hostile to the bible, Christians and particularly God is because they KNOW, to the bottom of their hearts, that God lives. And because they know he lives, they know the bible speaks the truth. And because the bible speaks the truth- both in the Old and New Testaments, they realize that the only way to become right with God is to stop their lust seeking behavior. They simply don’t want to give it up. Ancient Israel was exactly the same. The pagan gods they loved especially were ones that involved orgies and homosexual sex. They enjoyed the rites and rituals that condoned and encouraged this sexual deviancy. But God was very angered by this- you will see many references to the high oaks or altars on the hills- these are where these types of orgies took place. It enrages God. But no matter what the prophets warned them about (and this was an era when every one of them knew that God literally spoke to the prophets), they would not give it up. The sexual lure is very powerful, which is why it is being shoved on our children as ‘good’ and ‘normal’. It is a trap that quickly and effectively separates humans from God. They will throw God away before their lust. They will learn to hate him and his all seeing eyes. They band together in their shared shame and hatred of God. They surround themselves with those who feel the same way. It becomes a lifestyle choice. This hate is very difficult to overcome. THAT is why they are aggressive. HOW you tell them doesn’t seem to matter very much. It is about shame, lust and hiding. I suppose that the right person, in person, and under the right circumstance can help these people through reason. But it is one tough nut to crack.

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  40. God has blessed you with a great understanding of his law. You speak the truth and it gives me much pleasure to read what you have written. I have just one concern for us all. Please do guard yourself against the temptation to be angered by the comments of those with opposing views who are clearly blind to the truth of Gods laws. Be careful not to fall into the trap of calling another person dumb or a fool. It is for our maker to judge them but please continue in preaching the word of God as you do. I say this with love. Your work in our Lord is an inspiration to me. Thank you!

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    • Liz, I know you are speaking out of love. But why is your love only in the form of criticism? You have no idea of how many of these comments I must delete for the sheer nastiness of them. These people are hateful, demonic, evil, lovers of lies, lovers of pornography, lovers of bestiality and have the most foul mouths you have ever listened to. These are only a fraction of their nonsense that I allow. And I only allow them to show you Christians what you are up against. IF I tease them, well, the Lord will forgive me. They will taste the fires of hell for eternity. Believe me when I tell you that me calling someone a Dummy is FAR BETTER than they truly deserve. While you may mean well, a little support from a fellow Christian would better serve EVERYONE in this conversation. I get enough ugliness and criticism from the trolls. Thanks.

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  41. In Matthew 19:4-6, he was responding to a question by the Pharisees asking if it is lawful for a man to divorce his wife. Jesus’ answer talks about a man and a wife because that was the question. You still cannot find anything dealing with Jesus talking about homosexuality or addressing homosexuality. Period. No scripture at all. To put words in Jesus’ mouth in regards to homosexuals is quite a sin in itself I would wager.
    As for the other scriptures from the apostles, these men are not Jesus.

    Unless you can actually find scripture from Christ himself, then your argument will continue to fail in reality and you will continue to push people away from your faith.

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    • Chris, it doesn’t matter if he was responding to a question of divorce. Why should it? Within his answer to that question lies the answer to the homosexual question. YOU don’t want to hear it because YOU want to disobey God. Jesus ASSUMES that marriage is between a man and a woman. His assumption lies in the FACT that God made us biologically male and female. THAT is the basis for his argument on marriage. So, within his statements about divorce and marriage, he justifies the NATURE of marriage as between a male and a female- because that is how God created us. It is not because of the cultural norm of the day. There IS no argument you can make otherwise from his statement. But you will go ahead and lie to yourself. Go ahead! It is not my business what you will say to Jesus when you look him in the face. But I would love to be around when you stutter. JESUS made himself clear. And those ‘other men’ were all God inspired. Jesus told us that he would send the Holy Spirit to ‘help you remember all that I taught you”. How else could they remember his words so precisely that all books, though written at different times and places from one another (note: they didn’t have cell phones back then) could be so precise in their individual renditions? The bible is either the ENTIRE work of God or it is nothing. Those are your choices.

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    • Thank you so much for saying that. I read this is tears, and felt separated from the god I thought loved me. These do not encourage homosexuals to have a relationship with christ. And the photograph stereotyping the modern gay is such propaganda

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      • First, I highly doubt you read this is tears. Second, those pictures are not propaganda in any way. And you know it. They are taken by men who are proud of these sick displays of lust. These are taken with their full, happy consent. These are, as you well know, from gay pride events which every gay man attends. Why do you say that a clear fact is propaganda? Further, if gays don’t like these images, why do they insist on bigger and bigger (and more vulgar) parades every year? Why do they ask governors of their states to lead them? Normally, we associate propaganda as lies and twisting of truth. Propaganda is something no one wants others to believe about themselves. But these people do this with every intent for people to see them. They are proud of it. You just don’t like me showing them here, on a Christian page. Were this a gay page, you would love it. And no wonder. You know that God despises this with all his heart. Lastly, I am not here to encourage you or anyone to have a relationship with Christ. He is not a beggar and he sure doesn’t need me to beg for him. Also, God doesn’t need you. He doesn’t need me. He doesn’t need anyone to believe in him or to have a relationship with him. He is God. He has deigned to GIVE us a chance of everlasting life with him. He is so loving that he gave you and me and all these disobedient, lusting men many years to come to him. But if you and they are too stupid to do so, then it’s entirely your fault. So. People in Western nations don’t need to hear more about God’s love. They need to hear that they are killing themselves. On purpose. That they will die and be put in a cold, yawning grave forever. And their soul will reside in hell. With Satan. Now. If you love sex more than you love your very life, then keep doing what you are doing. If you want LIFE, beautiful happy, interesting, joyful, complete life full of purpose, then stop what you are doing. Christ didn’t just ask us to sacrifice something little like sex, but he asked for us to even die for him. Consider that the next time you feel like having a pity party for yourself.

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    • a lot of people claim that Jezus did not spoke of homosexuality. The question is: Is Jezus God or not. If he is, then He did say something about in the Old Testament days and later on, through his handpicked disciples. So watch out: Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain, indeed! Dolf from Holland

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      • One need not do as you say as Jesus most certainly did speak about the nature of marriage. That it is between a man and a woman. If marriage is only between a man and a woman, then obviously, so is the lesser thing: sex.

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  42. What a load of shit. God orders, condones and personally commits Rape, Slavery, Torture, Child Abuse including child murder, Animal and Human Sacrifice, Murder and Genocide, Stealing and Lying. Then there’s God being a supporter of Rape and Pedophilia. Not to mention Cannibalism and more. So tell me why that greatest evil mythological monster of all time in fictional literature “God”, is good. I mean after all, God does make the 3 worst mass murders of all time, Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong, look like saints. Killing more than all 3 combined. I mean God does kill over 31 million people Excluding Noah’s Flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, the many beasts, plagues, natural disasters God created just to kill people etc.. Near 3 million only where where numbers are given

    And don’t believe me? I’ll just let God tell you himself

    “I kill … I wound … I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh” Deuteronomy 32.39-42

    And if you ask why God said sword? Because man created God. The unimaginable evil of God and his killing sprees were the deaths from wars and battles of Rome. Not to mention the evil God tells you to do. Like killing disobedient children in Deuteronomy 21:18-21 of the New Testament. And I don’t wanna hear shit about the evils of God from the Old Testament and it’s no longer valid.

    Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so in Matthew 5:17-19 of the NEW TESTAMENT. An example is killing disobedient children in Deuteronomy 21:18-21 of the NEW TESTAMENT. The bible was created by copying many gods and religions that predate just the idea of God and Christianity. Sumer is a great example of a religion that existed long before God and Christianity were even a thought. Then there’s Kemetic, Greek Mythology, Norse Mythology, Paganism and more

    And lastly, why has the bible been edited and rewritten all throughout time? Not to mention the original bible was banned to a library on the outskirts of Jerusalem. Emperor Constantine did that after realizing instead of scaring the shit out of people with pure evil, He should do lure idiots in with bullshit. And 666? The numerical value of Nero Caesar’s name in both Greek and Hebrew. There is pure evil of that biggest hypocrite of all time God, all throughout the bible. Christians are lucky if they’ve ever opened one

    READ THE BIBLE. I guarantee you that most Christians would turn atheistic if they knew what was inside the bible. After all, the bible has created more atheists in the last 50 years than EVERYTHING else combined has in the last 2000 years. Christians are only bigoted, dishonest, hypocritical, adulterous, murderous etc anyway. Just look at our prison population. Over 50% Christians while only 0.07% atheists are in prison. 0.09% if you include the people who chose not to state their belief. Showing you that Christians are most commonly “evil” so to say. While people who don’t believe in iron age bullshit(the bible) are barely criminal at all. Does explain why religious regions are far more criminal than atheistic regions

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    • Hi Tim. Most of the time, when I get such a angry comment, I just delete it. But I sense in you a real need for biblical answers. The fact that you are commenting on this article is revealing as well. You must be practicing homosexuality right now and have come to this article to see the biblical response from Jesus. And it made you feel trapped and angry. I can understand that.

      All your statements are so broad and false that it is difficult to respond to them. But I will try my best. I believe I know where you are coming from.

      1) God is a terrible person because the bible tells of how he killed many people. The wrath and anger of God, especially as depicted in the Old Testament is the proof you feel you have to basically say he is horrible.
      2) You deny that people who say, “The Old Testament is no longer valid” because you see that the Old Testament was meant to be valid forever until the end of time.
      3) You claim that the bible has been re-written over time and so must actually be the work of human beings and not God. Therefore, everything in it is just made up and we are not bound by it. In fact, because of this, God doesn’t even exist- he was made up by people.
      4) You bring questionable statistics to say that Christians are bad people and so-called atheists are good people because more Christians are in prison than atheists.
      5) You claim that the bible itself has created so-called atheists.

      Ok. Now. Let me explain, before I begin, WHY I am answering these points. There is only one explanation: the Lord has asked me to. The Holy Spirit sometimes just makes me pause before I hit that ol’ delete button. And he tells me to answer kindly and sincerely. So, that is what I will do here. I feel your pain. So I want to help.

      You are correct in saying that ‘It’s in the Old Testament so it is no longer valid’ is a FALSE statement. Indeed, those are very ignorant Christians who never study the bible. Jesus himself said that not one letter or even stroke of a pen will disappear from the bible until he returns. He also stated CLEARLY that he did not come to negate the Law (Old Testament), but to fulfill it. The Old Testament stands. And every single aspect of it stands. So, you are very correct in that. And you are also correct to say that God can be very terrible. Very terrifying. And you are CORRECT to say that God most certainly brought armies against one another which resulted in tens of thousands of deaths at any given time. Children too. All correct. But that is exactly what is missing from our Christian society today- HONESTY about the nature of God. You know, one of my most hated sayings is, “Every life is precious to God.’ Adherents to that motto haven’t read the bible. Every human life is NOT precious to God. Also, I hate, ‘Love the Sinner, Hate the Sin.’ Again, not true about either God or Jesus. God most certainly hated the people who committed grievous sins against him. To say otherwise is to lie about the bible. Why should we lie? We have a God who can be very terrible. Human life is not to him what it is to us. But the real question is this: Does that make God BAD? EVIL? And the answer is, ‘no’. It just makes him AWESOME- literally.

      The bible describes human beings as pots and God the potter. He makes some pots for common use and he makes some pots for treasures. He can throw away the pots he formed with his hands that did not please him. Why? Because he is the potter! he is our creator and can really do with us whatever he likes. And if the pot doesn’t like it, it really can’t do a thing about it. You don’t like the power that God has over you. But I love the power God has over me. Because he is strong against my enemies. He protects not only my physical life but my eternal life. Absolutely no man on earth- no army of men- can take my life away from me if God forbids it. I want to be on his side. It is right for him to crush the nasty pots. They CHOSE to disrespect him, deny his existence, refuse to thank him for all the good they have and they intentionally set their hearts in complete and utter disobedience to his commands. Why should he keep that pot? THAT is the question. Would you keep a dog that ripped your child’s body to shreds? No. You would kill that dog. If you, a mere human being, can make this judgement over a dog, then how can God not make this judgement over a human? Of course he can.

      But does that make him BAD or EVIL? no. And you know it. I won’t argue with you on that point. God said that he has written his laws on EVERY HUMAN HEART and THEREFORE, no one will have an excuse when they see him someday. That is why EVERY ancient human culture, no matter how far apart and isolated they were from another, understood the concept of God. At the minimum, they knew that this life did not end in death. We all KNOW God exists- which is exactly why you feel trapped and angry. You wish you could get rid of him. But you can’t.

      God is GOOD. He created man for one purpose: to have LIFE with him FOREVER. We are not meant to die after a mere 80 or so years. No. Those are the years we have been given to find God. To CHOOSE God over the world (satan). To CHOOSE life. That’s it. We were created to be his children and to live forever with him in bliss. He wants our LOVE, not our blind obedience. So, he gives us a choice: satan & the world or him. One is in your face, instant gratification and lust while the other is far higher, far more joyful but harder to find- in fact, the path to this incredible life is hidden. It is hidden behind many bushes and the path is thin with rocks in it. Those rocks are the lusts of the world- like your lust for men and gratuitous, easy, frequent and immoral sex. Those put blinders on you. Those represent your choice for the easy ‘now’ instead of the far better ‘later’.

      If God created us for this ONE purpose and we fail to become his child, then why would he let us keep going along? What is the point of that? No, he most certainly has no intention of having a creation around that serves no purpose. Especially if it is wholly evil.

      As for God and his view of human life. First, what difference does it make WHEN we die? As a child or as an adult? We will all die. God is timeless and so can’t see death as we do. As the only point of these years is to find him, having more years really serves no purpose (except to help others find him, as I am trying to do for you now). And God is God. He can protect the minds of children if they are killed. He can do anything. All I know is that God has a very special protection over the children of this world. I doubt he would have them suffer or be pained by HIS hand. They died- but neither you nor I can know HOW they died.

      The times that God brought war upon the Israelis or anyone else, it was 100% justified. That is the part of the story you left out in your comment above. God warned Israel for over 400 years to stop worshipping other gods. He was horrified that they were sacrificing children to both him and their pagan idols. He was sickened by their sexual orgies. They were liars, thieves, murderers, slanderers, and did every kind of evil before his eyes. They deserved death (as we both do) well before he brought it. He sent prophet after prophet to warn them. But he was patient to the point of fault. You are the one who has not read your bible. I am AMAZED at how long he waited and how many times he tried. They brought it upon themselves. And look, if you don’t believe in God, then why blame God for the deaths brought by the Assyrian and Babylonian armies? Those are the times when the Jews literally starved to death and ate their own children. But God DID bring those armies. And those armies did what all armies did at that time. That was NORMAL war back then.

      You say that because God FINALLY brought the justice he had withheld for over 400 years, he is a cruel God. But I see an incredibly LOVING and Patient God.

      Look, you and I are just covered in sin. Both of us. The ONLY difference between you and me is that I have been blessed enough to SEE that I WANT to live forever with God in bliss. And that I gratefully accept the incredible gift of Jesus Christ so that I can do so. I am so happy that Christ did what he did- he died so that I could believe. He rose again to prove to me what will also happen to me. I will also be resurrected to a new body- just like his was after he was resurrected! And I am happy to escape the cold grave under the ground. I am looking forward to being glorified with Jesus and all my friends. WHY don’t you want that too??? That is the real question. Satan is using sex to derail you and to bury you in the cold hard earth. WHY DIE?? Over SEX? How can that be worth it to you? I would not only give up sex- but all that I have to have this gift. Who doesn’t want to live forever- and in perfect contentment, excitement, interest, passion, wholeness, health, joy, friendship..?? Who? Sex isn’t worth it. No. Nothing is worth it. Don’t let satan poison your mind. All that he has told you about God are lies- which deep down, you know. You just want to do what you want to do and STILL have the approval of God. But one can not forget that he IS just and he will end your life if you fail to find Jesus. Humble yourself. Jesus promised to FORGIVE ALL our sins if we but confess them to him. Pour your heart out to him. Give him the full burden of your dark heart and let him clean it out. He can and will. He did this for me and for many, many others. “Heaven is in your midst,” Jesus said, ‘if you have the eyes to see it.’ I know what he meant. I am in heaven now. My life has been transformed from utter darkness to complete joy in Christ. That could you be too. Let go of this anger. it is stupid. Trust in Jesus. Sin is not what truly separates us from God. It is a failure to ask for forgiveness for our sins that does. I do hope and pray you will hear me. That you will hear the voice of God. Do you see the time I have spent writing to you? That is GOD who loves you who commanded me to do so. Look around and see how many people I write like this to. Mostly I laugh or delete their posts because they are hopelessly lost. But you are DIFFERENT! God sees in you a valuable pot. But you must come to him. Do it sooner rather than later. Don’t worry about the future. Don’t worry about what you will be tempted to do. Just take this step. And Jesus, the King of all, will hold you up and help you. Just as he has done for me.

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  43. This article was well interpreted and well delivered by the author. God bless the heart and life of the writer for his wisdom because it is clear that she has the wisdom to expose the lies that homosexual activists feed to the world and corrupt mankind. I will recommend this article to anyone who is trying to understand the Lord’s stance on homosexuality. So from all the way from Grenada, I say thank you and may the Lord bless you!

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  44. I can’t help feeling sad for people who have issues with the body they were born into, however, we do not know all of God’s plans, or why they have to go through having emotions they did not ask for, nor know how to cope with. I leave all that up to God, for he has wisdom, which we can never know. My attitude is, if God disapproves of something, then, I follow his lead. I may not understand all of God’s reasons for why he does things as he does, but I do trust them.

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    • Agreed. And Ladybug, Christ asked us for our ENTIRE LIVES, not just the sacrifice of one part. He would have us lay down our entire life in his service. Sex? ha. That is minor in comparison to what he has really asked for. Homosexuals suffer from untamed lust. So do a lot of heterosexuals. We need to give up our human desires and replace them ALL with the desires of God. Only after we are born again will we receive the compensation for this loss of life. I believe in that. And I live it. And the ironic thing is this: by giving up all my own desires, I have found complete bliss in this life. It is the irony of Christ- those who give their life will find it (even here on earth!) and those who seek to fulfill their lives on earth will lose it (even here on earth!). I don’t feel sorry for homosexuals. They are not a special victim class. We ALL have our crosses to bear. And God IS fair. I trust in his judgement implicitly.

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    • Short lil rebel, you are awesome! In response to Ladybug, God created man perfect but man CHOSE to follow Satan from the beginning. Seeing that man made such a detrimental choice God said in Genesis 3:16 : I will increase your trouble in pregnancy and your pain in giving birth.

      We are all born in sin, sin causes abnormalities, deformities etc. These afflictions are not from God in as much but a result of sin. All the troubles of this world are a result of sin. We are fortunate that God allowed his perfect son to take on mans form and absorb our sins, past, present and future. Obviously we are not all born Gay, its a choice for many people, I don’t care how they try to argue their point.But, we all are born in Sin.. In addition, We all have the holy spirit in us, we just CHOOSE as Adam and Eve so eloquently demonstrated, to allow our sinful nature to take over.. Adam and Eve didn’t have a sinful nature at first, but they were vulnerable to temptation. Each one of us know very well, before we commit any act of good or bad whether its what we should do….

      And for the people stating we are not under the law, Short Lil Rebel is absolutely CORRECT.. When God created man, he specifically said “Let us make man in our image” Who do you think he was referring to? He was referring to the trinity…. God the Father, God the son, God the Holy Spirit… Jesus was present at the beginning and will continue to be until the end. The Old Testament and the law still stands as Jesus said in Matthew 5:17-18 ” Do not think I have come to abolish the law of the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until Heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law UNTIL EVERYTHING IS ACCOMPLISHED”.

      Short lil rebel, What I have found is the truth has been watered down, mainly because some preachers or churches feel the truth is not popular.Jesus said ” In the last days men will be lovers of pleasure and all the characteristics we are discussing on this site will be also prevalent in the Church…

      Great Job !!

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  45. Well, adulterers, and Christians rapists are no better than any eunuch that Jesus spoke of. Eunochs of that time was and is the equivalent to gays today. And he NEVER condemned them, but blessed them as opposed to self righteous bible thumpers whom are cherry picking from the bible to hide behind when exposing your bigotry, hypocrisy and hatred towards people whom are born different than you.
    Religion is an excellent way of spreading hatred towards anything you don’t like…

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    • Bohemian, why do you think I hate anyone? Because I tell the truth about what the bible says about homosexual behavior? In what other way do Christians ‘use religion’ to hate other types of people? You are just thrashing in your discomfort, Bo. Listen. I care about you and all people who are engaging in lustful, sinful sex. I would say that rapists are worse than homosexual behavior! That also includes terrible violence. I agree about adulterers. They are just as bad as those involved in homosexual sex. As to eunochs, I don’t think you understand the term. Eunochs had their testicles cut off so that they couldn’t have sex at all- they were used to protect harems. As to Jesus blessing eunochs, I’m not sure what you mean. Can you please provide a scripture reference so that I can understand what you are saying? Jesus loves everyone- you, me, everyone. Jesus offers the gift of everlasting life to everyone. But every one of us must first REPENT. That is mandatory. Repenting doesn’t mean we will never sin. If it did, none of us would be saved. It means that you acknowledge that you DO sin. The problem with homosexual culture today is that they refuse to say they are sinning. Thus, there can be no repentence. Thus, there can be no salvation and forgiveness. That is the problem. Listen, Bohemian. I can hear and feel your pain. You want to be close to Jesus. You desperately want it. And you would like to believe that it is I or other Christians that prevent that. Not so! It is only your own refusal to kneel to Christ’s own commands that prevent you from being close to him. We ALL sin- me too- I freely admit it! But because I KNOW I sin, I love Christ all the more for his forgiveness. But does that mean I can blithely go back to doing the exact sins over and over and over again? Can I just sin and then say, ‘Oops, sorry!’ knowing in our hearts that we will definitely do it again? no. That isn’t really an apology, is it?

      Sex is a choice. Outside of rape, no one forces it upon us. We can live without sex for the rest of our lives- easily. Once you give your life to Christ’s great commission, you start to understand that Christ wants ALL of us. Literally. He wants all of our life- not just a holy sex life. Ha! That is the least of it. He commands us to lay down our lives for our fellow man. That means, DIE for your neighbor. I think death is a little harder to accept that heterosexual sex or no sex, don’t you? Bohemian. It is easy to come to Christ. Just say you are sorry. Be sorry. I know you already are. Let him minister to your broken heart. Let him HELP you. Considering that you will have TRILLIONS of years of bliss with him, do you really think indulging sexual whims on this earth is worth it? You need to look at the entire picture. Satan wants you to close your eyes tight. He hates you and desires nothing more than to hurt God by hurting you, his beloved child. Forget him and put your eyes on Jesus. Perhaps you say to yourself, I CAN’T give up homosexual sex! I can’t! I say, ‘You are capable of even greater things than this” through Jesus Christ, the Son of God. YOU are worth so much more to God than you think. LEAN into God heavily. He will carry you. And when you are done with this miserable life on earth, you will have the greatest satisfaction known to man: you pleased God, your father in heaven. And he will tell you so when you see him face to face. Bohemian! See the bigger picture! Don’t let satan pull you down. I promise you that I don’t hate you. Sometimes I shock you because otherwise you won’t even stop in your tracks to hear me or others like me. But behind the shocking words is love. I LOVE you enough to give my life to you. Please hear me and save yourself. Jesus is coming very, very soon.

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  46. So I would be careful you Paulinean whom are misusing the bible for your own selfish bigotry to throw rocks in glass houses. You have no right to condemn others as long as you are unrepentant when it comes to your own “sins”. There are no sins. What consenting adults do behind closed doors, is none of your goddamn business. So start cleaning up your own bullshit before dictating to others how they live their lives. And Christianity does not have any monopoly on morality. In fact, I find Paulineanism (the dogma most self proclaimed Christians are following) highly immoral intolerant, and borderline psychotic. Same goes for the genocidal old testament god., Yahwe is by all definitions the most vile, disgusting character ever to be conjured up by bronze age nomads who didnt know any better.,.

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    • Hi Bohemian, the term, ‘Paulism’ makes me laugh. If one part of the bible isn’t true, then none of it is. Including the existance of God. Let me tell you this: if God exists and can’t even keep a little book together the way he wants, then he isn’t much of a God, is he? Does that sound like the Person who made every atom and all the physics around it? I don’t think so. Either God is God or he doesn’t exist. The only place to learn about God is the bible. So, it is unreasonable to claim that only parts of the bible are correct. If God is God, (which he is), then he most certainly can make and keep a book together juuuuuust the way he wants. So, either the bible is ALL true or you can just ignore it. That is point number one. Now, as to my sin. Where did I say I never sinned? I wrote an article that outlines the BIBLE’S statements concerning homosexual behavior. You don’t like it because it condemns you and prevents you from the lust you wish you could just explore at will. What you do behind closed doors isn’t my business. But when you try to shove it down my kids’ throats, it becomes my business. Gays are not content with their own damnable behavior. No. They need to have all society call it ‘good’. And because God won’t call it good, most homosexuals then leave God too. Only that is satan’s illusion. You can never leave God. He will always see what is done in secret. There is no escaping his eyes. No matter how much you hate him or those who follow him. I am not trying to judge you. I am trying to open your eyes. So that you can come to Christ the same way I did: in humility and a deep understanding that you can’t save yourself. That you NEED Jesus in your life. And to accept the eternal life he holds in his holy hands. But you can’t do that as long as you don’t repent of your sins. And if you repent, you can’t just keep on doing it and saying it is good! THAT is the point of this article. Not to judge. But to help you. But I think you already know that. Sex isn’t worth losing trillions of years of true LIFE, is it?

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  47. I enjoyed you article and it helped me win a debate with a friend. I would like to add to your statement about ‘marriage equality.’

    How do we extend a concept like ‘equality’ to ONLY Homosexual and Heterosexual couples?

    By that, I am asking, where does it stop? Now usually when I broach this topic I get answers like ‘bestiality’ which is erroneous because animals cannot ‘voice’ their acceptance to choose to marry someone or not. However, I feel that it does open the door to polygamy or poly-amorous relationships. For example, if two men get married and then invite a woman to join them in their marriage. That woman has NO legal authority to be in that marriage no matter how the two men feel. So, if one of the two men got sick, the woman would have to live with whatever decision the spouse made for health care for the other man. How is that ‘equal?’ It would not be and I feel that will be the next ‘civil rights’ battle. Every time I bring this notion up, my marriage equality friends offer statements like, “well that is different and not part of this problem!” or “what’s wrong with polygamy?”

    So, am I wrong to think that they WANT marriage to be destroyed OR they KNOW that marriage equality has an inherent problem but they do not want to address it?

    Your thoughts on this matter please.

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    • Hi Jason, well, your instincts have served you well. Of course marriage equality is the door that will be used to accept all forms of deviant and sinful sex- bestiality included. The reality is this: bestiality proponents, polygamy proponents and pedophiles have ALL begun entering law suits calling for legal equality. Jason, God KNOWS what he created when he created man. The bible is not a book of, ‘no’s’. The bible is a book that gives human beings the perfect way to be happy on this earth and beyond. God’s commands and wishes are exactly like what I say to my kids. I tell them not to stand on the counter because if they do, they can fall and break their neck. I don’t do it to be bossy for its own sake. God knows that human sexuality can be a wonderful thing. It was provided for our mutual happiness. But if sex is not within the confines of marriage, both sexes become debased by it. Eating is a good thing. Eating too much is deadly. Drinking wine is something we do to remember our king. Drinking too much wine will cause you to throw up. God gave us all the pleasures of the world. and he told us exactly how to enjoy them. He KNEW that if sex were handled outside of the manner in he prescribed, it would lead to all sorts of illness. And it has. Literally. Note: “Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.” I believe that AIDS is the ‘penalty’ they received into their bodies.

      The very first people who began pushing to make sodomy legal on the federal level KNEW ahead of time that destroying marriage was their goal. That was just the first legal toe hold. The moment that was legal, the door was open to civil unions. Then, the door was open to gay marriage/ gay adoption. Then, the door is opened for every form of deviant sex- including pedophilia. (I kid you not- there is a group called the North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) calling for the legalization of pedophilia.) The strategy was set well before the first push to legalize sodomy.

      Homosexuality is one of the very strongest pillars of the Progressive take over in the World. Their goal: destroy everything that makes a society strong: divide and conquer. Here are the things that make a country exceedingly strong: FAMILY, LOVE OF GOD, LOVE OF COUNTRY. Destroy those things and you will be able to destroy. Homosexuality is being used to destroy the most efficient way a society has to raise children and dessiminate resources: the family unit. Bowing to the wishes of the 1% destroys that unit. Broken families created broken children. Broken children grow up to broken adults. Broken adults are weak. Weak adults can be manipulated. There are books that have been written from as long ago as 1920’s which blatantly outline this strategy. Saul Alinsky wrote Rules for Radicals which also outline these tactics. and the Progressives have followed this strategy with unmatched determination. Bottom line, the use of homosexuality is a well planned strategy that is now bearing fruit. The goal: destroy the family unit. All part of a whole strategy to weaken America. The goal: after destroying the might of America, people will panic. Then, swoop in with all the solutions- namely, One World Government with some extremely powerful people at the pinnacle of that monstrosity.

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  48. Repent of your sins and invite Jesus to come into your life and make him Lord and Savior over your life and follow Him. You will live a life of blessings and unspeakable favor day after day and He will pour out His bountiful love on you now and forever. Glory to God! Thank you Jesus!

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  49. This is an amazing references and teaching to how God wants us all to live. Short-little-rebel you are an inspiration to all Christians. With your words I am sure you have reached many that want to follow in your steps. God Bless You!!

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    • Well, the question needed to be answered. So many people considering homosexuality are asking themselves this very question. When I was in my 20’s and living in San Francisco, I condoned homosexuality because I was literally ignorant of what the bible said about the topic. Once I saw it with my own eyes, I changed my mind. Well, that and the nasty behavior of gays at gay pride parades.

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  50. I’m sorry but it’s not up to you or your religion to decide who and who you cannot be with. Personally, I’m both atheist and bisexual. And there is nothing wrong with either of these. Considering how the only argument against gay marriage is religion and because in the constitution it clearly states; separation of church and state, I see no actual reason gay marriage should not be legal anywhere in the US. But its legal in oregon now so I’m happy 🙂

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    • Carmen, this article is not about the legality of gay marriage, this article is about the sin of homosexuality. They are two different things. Obviously, you are interested in what Jesus had to say on the matter or you wouldn’t have read the article. You already knew the legal aspects. We all care what Jesus has to say because we are all seeking Jesus. Only Jesus offers us a way to be free from sin and only Jesus tells us how we can reconcile our sinful selves to God and how to obtain eternal life in any kind of logical way. No other ‘religion’ does that. All other ‘religions’ give a list of rules to follow but fail to give any remedy on what to do WHEN we fail to follow the rules. Only Christ offers forgiveness through a logical means- through his death on the cross. He took all our sins upon himself and sacrificed himself out of love for us. Thus, we are free from our sins through his sacrifice which was bought through is incredible love for us. Jesus and his plan are logical. No other prophet or religious though process has this kind of answer to how we can rid ourselves of our sin (and even you know that you sin) so that we can stand next to a perfect God. You say that you are an atheist, but you have never faced death. When someone puts a gun to your head, believe me, you will come to understand very quickly that you were never meant to die, to disappear. No, your soul, your essence, is meant to endure forever. It will not make a grain of sense, in that moment of impending death, that you should die forever. Your entire being will scream out in denial of death. You have never been in the proverbial foxhole, with the enemy approaching to gut you. You live in complete safety- that is why you say that you believe in your own death. You know nothing about it. And so, you take enormous risks with your own true life, your eternal one. Because you fail to consider that you might not see your death coming. It might end suddenly and then, because you were so blithe in this short, false life, you have lost your eternal, true life. And it was to be the most beautiful part of your life. And why? Because you wanted to bump uglies with both sexes. That hardly seems worth it to me. But that is entirely up to you. I will never understand that type of calculation- I weigh my life quite differently than you. I would rather sacrifice anything in this life to purchase eternal happiness. You would rather bump uglies with both sexes and die forever. I shrug my shoulders and scratch my head at your choice. But as you said, the law is with you. In any case, with or without the law, no one would stop you from this activity, would they? Certainly not I. As I said, this article merely served to make it clear to all exactly what the bible had to say on the matter. So many people who are either considering homosexuality or were already engaged in it are completely ignorant of the bible and what Jesus himself had to say. I wanted to provide a service to them so that they could make their decision with their eyes wide open. And yes, homosexuality is a decision, as you well know. No one forces you to bump uglies with anyone. No one. And anyone can have sex with anyone- as is proven by the huge number of men who once had families and then decide to move into the homosexual lifestyle. Ditto for women. It is a lustful lifestyle that is free from responsibility. That is the lure. The problem with reading my article is that now no one, including you, can claim ignorance to God when they see him someday. Now, God will be very firm with you when you see him if you do not change you ways. If you continue disobeying him concerning sex, then you will answer for it now that you are clear on his opinion on the matter. I’m sorry. I do hope you will consider these matters and that you will do the right thing for yourself. Obeying God is not about slavery. It is about freedom- both here on earth and in heaven. You are in slavery now. You are in misery now. You think you know happiness, but you do not. I know peace and I know freedom. I know bliss but you don’t know bliss. I wish you did. Come back to Jesus through simple obedience. Trust in his rules and eventually you will build a real relationship with him and you will be set truly free. This earth and all its miseries and traps will no longer hold you. You will soar high above it and you will know a joy that you have never known. I promise you. Be blessed, my dear. Susan

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  51. Again, I’m atheist. I believe that we live our life, and we die. And that’s it. So obviously I will make my life the happiest I can in the short time it still exists. I’m not about to give up the people I love. I’m not going to shut off an entire portion of my life that actually makes me happy and helps with all the other shit just because of the possibility that there is a god. Even if God did exist, he must be an evil man. For him to say I don’t have the right to be happy, is downright heartless. If he was so great, he would understand that I have just as much rights as a strait girl to marry and have sex with anyone I wanted. So if he does exist, fuck him. He doesn’t deserve my praise.

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    • Carmen, from your lips to God’s ears. You are a very unwise girl indeed. Illogical too. If there is a God, then your words simply condemn you forever. And it won’t be him that is f-cked. It will be you. If there is a God, no matter what his character is, he is more powerful than you, thus his designation as God. So, you lose. It is like standing up to a mack truck while driving a bug. Kinda stupid. Further, every human being on earth knows that God exists. That is exactly why you read this article. You read it in the hopes of finding an excuse for your behavior. But you didn’t find it and now you are angry. Your anger doesn’t change a thing, does it? God does exist and your words do exist. Luckily for you, God is extremely forgiving. All you need to do is repent- that means, ‘say sorry’ and sin no more. Sex can’t mean that much to you. It can’t be worth that much to anyone. That is just spoiled thinking. “I want what I want and no one gets to tell me to stop.” Why don’t you kick your heels on the floor too? Any baby can do that. The sign of a mature adult is understanding that one can’t always have what one desires. If we can’t afford something, we can’t just steal it. There are rules that govern morality. Sex has rules set by God. We don’t get to argue. You know that homosexuality is sin. You know it to the deepest part of yourself. I’m sorry it pains you. Well, Carmen, there are no such things as atheists. No matter how many times you scream it. You know what you know. God sees you. I pray that you get the time to see your death coming and I pray even harder that your pride doesn’t get the best of you before your death comes. I pray that you get the chance- and that you take that chance to repent before you leave this earth. Saying, “I’m sorry,” isn’t that hard. Make your peace, dear. There is more joy in this life than you know- and it has nothing to do with sex. It has everything to do with knowing Christ. You truly do not understand what you have lost. You are living in the darkest of dark- you do not even know what happiness is. But I do. I wish it for you. Good luck, my dear. Susan

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  52. I understand that you believe there’s a god. It make sense, for thousands of years people have been answering that which they cannot justify with their religion. It’s a security. It helps with death and makes life a little less scary. I assure you that I am atheist. I have no doubt in my mind that we are here simply because of evolution. That what happens, happens because we make it happen. Not some higher power. But, hypothetically, (this is just so that I understand your perspective) if God did say homosexuality was wrong, what would his reasoning behind it be? And why would he have the right to make that decision for all people?

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  53. Why don’t you ask God if He is real? Better yet, why don’t you ask Him to give you a taste of , something that you deserve? I hope you don’t pick something real bad, because He might just do it!!!. He is real wether you believe it or not,and you will know Him,either here on earth or in hell, but u will know and you will bow your knee to Him. I hope you find the truth,so that you could love Him and trust Him. We love you regardless if you are straight or gay. He loves you more than you can imagine!!

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    • Short Little Rebel,

      I honestly think that throughout this blog you let your pride get the better of you. You constantly took the tone of “I am better, smarter, and wiser than you.” Pride was the original sin and to become like God was it’s goal. C.S. Lewis even wrote that pride is most likely the “greatest” sin. You should really read over this blog again to see what I mean about how insincerely pious you sound. God hates pride more than homosexuality….all sin is derived from pride and originally wanting to become like God. And yeah, for the record, you sound like you have a bit of a god complex. No need to be God, just be you and he will love you for that. Start helping others come to Christ through humility and recognition that we live in a miserable world. You say you know peace and bliss. Really? Are you living in the same world as the rest of us are in? The one that God himself weeps over every single hour? I guess not because the one that you live in is all peaches and cream. Your profile picture says it all…Hi everyone I’m awesome!😃😃 Darling that’s great and I’m glad to know you are all smiles and that the only obstacle in your path to perfection according to yourself, and what you make quite obvious throughout this blog is pride. Well for the record pride is a real bitch and you proved it in just about every single one of these posts. And no I am not some depressed fellow who thinks there is no ending to this madness on earth. I see a light at the end of the tunnel, and like you I believe it’s Jesus. But I am also a realist and understand that this world for now is shit. Like it or not right now in the Middle East there are young women being tortured and raped around the clock and kept away locked in a room as sex slaves. Are some of these girls Christians….yes, are some not? Also yes. Please tell me are the ones who aren’t Christian, but are still in the same awful situation as the Christians, going to hell after being left to rot on a floor from being starved and raped by grown men everyday straight for a year? Are you going to tell one of the non-believers, with your ridiculous smile in your arrogant patronizing tone, that “Sorry honey but unless you believe in Jesus after you are left for dead in this miserable place you are going to be sent to a far worse place for eternity.” How old are you? Wake up! You need to mature more before you go posting another one of these numbingly self-absorbed posts. Otherwise how do you expect people to want to listen to you? Or maybe that’s exactly what you want. Just for people to listen to you and your nauseating elitist nature drone on about “I am perfect and you need help but I love you”. I would not doubt it for a second that you are probably a handsome, smart, and witty person. And some people with no friends might be very attracted to being around you…and not because of your love for God, but because of you and only you. I’m not sure if that’s your goal, but that’s definitely pride’s goal and it’s creeping around everyone’s door. At least you admit to it…I’ll give you that.

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      • Wow. Casey. Let me guess. You suffer from lust for men, right? And this post gets you really down- but I want to offer you hope! But before I do that, I want to tell you something. I admit that I suffer from pride! And it is a great sin. And I repent of it sorrowfully many times and probably will for the rest of my life. God did give me great intelligence and for this, I have become prideful. God has regularly given me a mighty smack down for it, believe me. He has not forgotten me, his servant, in his punishments. You need not worry that I just sail along in life without God’s keen eye upon me. Do you really think he allows me to have this much influence without also severely beating me when I go wrong? If so, then you don’t know God. And you don’t know my life at all. I most certainly don’t lead an elitist life- I have lived an extremely difficult life. I know the pain of childhood abuse, sexual abuse, homelessness, friendlessness, suicidal depression, and true suffering. I have. And I have also known great wealth and influence. I believe that God has set me through such extremes for the sole purpose of writing this blog. I am now 50 years old. Enough years to experience all these things and come out alive. I can speak to most experiences with authority- what you hear in my ‘voice’ isn’t pride- it is experience. I know what I’m talking about. And if I am hard on people, it isn’t because I’ve never suffered- it’s because I have suffered. It’s because I have suffered and never hurt anyone because of it. I never took drugs because of it. I never did crime because of it- I never begged, stole or rejected God because of it. And most of all, I never blamed others because of it. Therefore, I don’t really feel very sorry for those who do these things. I hope you can understand my perspective. I don’t think you can blame me for it.

        Now. You say you believe in Jesus yet can’t believe that a person can experience bliss in the middle of horror? Why so? Doesn’t Jesus say, “Heaven is in your midst if you had eyes to see it?” Doesn’t the bible tell us that if we have Jesus then our cup will overflow with the joy that passes all understanding? I can tell you now that I DO experience much happiness and bliss in Christ- much peace- even in the midst of this hell of an earth. AND I experience many, many tears and groans for the suffering I see around me.

        I just wrote a long message to a guy named Jeff. He was struggling with the same thing as you. He is also a Christian, like us. I want to say the same things to you. If you don’t mind, I’m going to just copy and paste my answer to him, to you.

        “Here is something that you need to stop doing: stop saying that you ‘are gay’. That simply is not true. One is not gay. One is a man. One is Caucasian. One is tall. One is smart. But one isn’t gay. That is not a fact of being. That is something we feel or act upon. It is much more accurate to say that you have lust for men. Obviously you can have lust for women too or you couldn’t have had sex with your wife. I don’t know if you have children, but I have read about too many men who call themselves ‘gay’ and have been exactly in your shoes- been married, had kids and then said, “I’m gay” and left. Impossible. More like, “I am a man who can lust for women and I can lust for men. This is my sin and I have a hard time controlling it.” well. lah, dee, dah. I hate to sound cavalier, but welcome to the human race, Jeff. Do you honestly believe that you are the only human male who suffers from inappropriate lust issues? Just because you lust for men sometimes doesn’t mean you ‘are’ permanently something other than what you were born: ie, a male human being. Do you follow me?

        Men can lust for children, too many women, porn, hard core sex, etc. None of this is healthy sex and none of it belongs in a Christian marriage. It is literally, ‘deviant’ sex. And according to God, immoral. That’s just the rules according to the One who made us all. I have no doubt whatsoever that when you began exploring homosexual sex, you felt like less of a person and farther from God. I have no doubt that is why you stopped. I am very glad you stopped. It will only destroy what is good inside you. God knows what he made when he made man. The Bible is our instruction manual- our care manual. It is not a strict book of rules meant to torture us. It is a loving book that literally tells us how to attain bliss in this life. Homosexual sex, hard core S&M sex, incest, child sex, etc- ALL of these will lead to mental, spiritual and physical breakdown of the human being. And all evidence points to this truth. The homosexual and transgender population is the most miserable population in the world. It kills itself more than any other.

        Lots of men suffer from lust, Jeff. You suffer from lust. It is as simple as that. You obviously can lust for women and can be a husband as you were meant to be. Your trouble was that you got confused by what society deemed to be ‘gay-ness’. You assumed that because you also lusted for men, you must BE something other than a normal man. You assumed you must be something ‘other’. But you never stopped and asked yourself, “Why should I redefine myself simply because I lust for men?” Satan has been working on America and modern society for some time now. This ‘gay’ thing has been at work for generations. It wasn’t always this way, you know. Hundreds of year ago, powerful men just assumed they could lust for anyone they wanted and still be men. They never felt pressured to call themselves anything new. They had their marriages and just slept around with everyone. But this gay movement is insidious. Its purpose is to separate people from God permanently and you fell into the trap.

        Again. You are simply a man who lusted for both women and men and then, because you found yourself also attracted to men, panicked and relabeled yourself as GAY. Thus, once relabeled, you divorced and decided to only have sex with men. All according to the Progressive, satanic plan. Meanwhile, what you really needed to do is understand that you suffer from lust like so many other men and women. And you needed to control your BEHAVIOR, even more than your mind. You said that you didn’t cheat and that, my friend, is half the battle. What do you think marriage is? A bed of roses? Sometimes marriage isn’t perfect or romantic. But you stay married anyway. You say it wasn’t ‘fair’??? Who said marriage was ‘fair’?? It’s for life and that’s that. No matter what. You don’t cheat. You just stay. And you pray

        No one can force you to have sex with a man, can they? No. Easy answer. You could have stayed married. That was your promise to God. That is marriage, I’m afraid. Only modern day Americans think it is about love or fairness. No wonder everyone gets divorced! And you should have told her the truth and gotten counseling. Don’t you believe in prayer??? People can suffer terribly from lust. I can attest that prayer works for this! Sex is sex and indeed, you could have continued to have a satisfying sexual relationship with your wife. That is also just a decision. And if you felt ‘deprived’ that you couldn’t ALSO have sex with men? TOO BAD! lol. seriously. Them’s the cards you got dealt, right? Deal with it.

        This life is not about our personal satisfaction and the day we can get that into our heads the better. We are here to SERVE JESUS. Jeff. Of COURSE God loves you. And, if you are not disobeying him by having sex with other men, then you are not angering him either. This article never said that God hated homosexuals. It simply said that I hated platitudes like this which are so prevalent in today’s milquetoast church. This article was to put the fear of God back into people to balance out the oozing, sticky, love-only version of the bible being erroneously given to people who are seriously sinning against God. There really ARE people whom God hates. But you aren’t one of them. You love God. You are just a simple sinner like me, Jeff. So, rest easy on that score. But control your BEHAVIOR. No one can control what they wish for or feel. That is not what God holds against us. And repent as we all do, Jeff. Stop calling yourself Gay and tell the truth of yourself: you are a Child of God. That is who you are. Plain and simple. Throw off the chain of satan and put on the brilliant mantle of God. ok?”

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      • I agree with your comment concerning pride, and having to fight it on a daily basis; its much too easy to be critical of others, while congratulating ourselves on our own virtues, and knowing it is wrong does help to learn to be more humble in our attitude, and to thank God for the blessings he has given, and to pray for him to help us in our effort to be more humble. I don’t resent God’s chastisement, I am thankful for it, for it helps me understand I am no more special than anyone else, and except for the grace of God, I would not have the abilities he has bestowed on me at all. Not that I have any special abilities, but I know I am fortunate and blessed to just be able to have life and to have the privilege of enjoying the simple pleasures of his lovely world, and am grateful for that. We all have our personal attitudes and various little persona problems to fight, but as long as we are aware of them, and are dealing with the struggle to overcome our prideful nature, I believe God gives us credit for that, along with admonishing us when we need to be brought down a peg, and back to reality, as my mom use to say. Blessings to you and yours.

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      • Hi Ladybug, eloquently said. I, too, am thankful for the admonishment. Even though it hurts. A lot. God does not give anyone a position of influence without making sure they receive a proper pruning- regularly! lol. I suppose there are those people who refuse to listen to God’s admonishment- but they will then fall in a mighty way! I’m thinking of people like television evangelists. God knows that I will listen. He makes sure to speak to me via the Holy Spirit and will plant the guilt, the admonishment and the rebuke into my spirit when I have strayed beyond his authority. Then I suffer with great shame and misery. Only repentance (usually public) and prayer will do. There is no one who can witness perfectly. If we all wait until we can witness well, we will never witness at all. That is why so many Christians are afraid to witness publically. I don’t blame them. When I witness publically like this, I open myself up to the criticism of Christian and non-Christian alike. Fingers point at me from the left and right. But I am glad! Because it must be understood that my human witness is irrelevant! It is the Holy Spirit’s witness that matters! I am just the human conduit for his voice. God works through us- our weakness is how he is proven to be strong! Even though we are completely incompetent, he will work miracles through us, DESPITE our many obvious flaws. That is why we must open our mouths and show the world our frailties. Somehow, God works around us in such a way as to prove his perfection to the world. And that is the point. It is when we are too cowardly to lay ourselves open to the ridicule of the world that we fail God.

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      • Very well said! Yes, it can be difficult to witness publically, for fear of ridicule or getting your words wrong, and then questioning if God would approve of what you just said. Our human nature does not like ridicule or snarly responses, however I would rather risk that, than to risk God’s disappointment in my reluctance to share his message, if there is a chance, even one person will listen and accept. Thank goodness for people such as you, who are sharing God’s words! I, sometimes, listen to Joyce Meyer, who does not mind sharing her life experiences, and her once obstinate attitude, and hurt feelings when she felt her family was not caring enough about her feelings. Not many of us are willing to put it out there like that, I am one of them, more introverted, but I am happy to say I have not had too many unpleasant situations, a few which have been devastating, but you deal with what life gives you, although you, sometimes, wonder why. I once, actually, heard an audible voice speak to me, which I assume was an angel; I was completely alone, with only my one year old asleep in her crib, and was on a real self pity trip, and the only thought going through my head was, “Why me, Lord, why me?” Suddenly I heard a voice ask me a two word question: “Why anyone?” It was a soft, non judgmental voice, but just giving me enough information to allow me to figure it out for myself and never did answer my self pity question. Surprisingly, I was not afraid, only startled, and stood there, stopped my pacing, as then, said, “What?!” The voice spoke one more, same question, “Why anyone?” After about a minute, of being in shock, I said, “Your are correct, why do I think its ok for others to have bad things happen, but I should be exempt? ” The voice never spoke again, it had served its purpose. I have never heard it again, that was in 1966. We lost our youngest son in a motorcycle accident on Memorial weekend in 1986, and went through all the emotional pain, and had a dream of him one night, where he was riding toward me on his bike, and I became excited, when he smiled and waved, like, “So long, see you later.” but before I could speak he was gone. I was frustrated at why he couldn’t wait just a minute, and never got an answer for months, when the thought entered my head; “He could not wait, you and he are traveling in different directions, now, he had to move on” The only other time I ever dreamed of him was about a year later, and dreamed our family was walking down a lovely path in a beautiful area, and, once again, I saw him walking toward us, and became joyful and called to the family to come see, he is here! However, our son just seemed very nonchalant about it, and had an expression which seemed to say, “Of course, where did you expect I would be?” It was a brief dream, and I suddenly woke up. The day after his funeral, out daughter and her husband returned to San Diego, where he was stationed in the military, and after she was asleep, the phone woke her up, she reached over and answered it, and heard her brother’s voice ask her to “Let the family know I am fine, not to worry about me.” She was so groggy with sleep, she just said “OK.”, and next morning thought it was a strange dream, until, her husband asked, “Who called last night?” She answered, “You heard the phone?!” He replied, “Yes, you answered it, who was it?” She replied it was (brother’s name). I realize how all this sounds, but, then, God can do miraculous things when he knows there is a need. I do not share this with many, and was hesitant to now, but did. Thanks for listening, and hope you have a great 4th!

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      • Oh, Ladybug!!! How wonderful and exciting! Wow. I too had an angel visit me! She came in the image of a little girl. It was a vision, not a dream. She came and told me that my mother sent her to tell me that she was fine and that she loved me. That was it! She didn’t speak in a little girl’s voice- which didn’t strike me as odd at all. The vision was short and comforting. I later read that angels have often appeared as children to people. I never knew that. But I knew for sure it was real. My mother and I never got along- in fact, she hated me. I mean, I knew she must love me deep down, but on the outside she beat me and said horrible things to me. Her dying words to me were, “you are my worst enemy.” When she died, I was glad. I was relieved that she was gone. No more ugly words. No more screaming. No more begging for her love. No more disappointment. I wasn’t yearning for her or wishing for anything. So the angelic visit was odd. I was surprised and didn’t appreciate the message at the time. In some ways, I thought, “so what? big deal? she’s ok? now she loves me?” I almost didn’t care. But God knew what he was doing because all these years later, I have forgiven her and understand her so much more as a woman. I am so GLAD she is in heaven and so happy that she loves me. I am now overjoyed that she felt like sending me that message- she knew that I would need to hear those words someday. How wonderful for you, Ladybug!

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      • Thanks for your support, and I am so sorry you had to experience such a sad childhood with your mother, but, God works in mysterious ways, and maybe we have to go through some painful times, with even the people we call family, in order to bring out the strength in us, which God has instilled for his work, and you are living proof that has happened with you. You have challenged, and spoken what God is all about, in spite of any negative input from detractors, and that has inspired others to feel more positive about themselves, and to speak out, as well, and I, thank you, as, I’m sure your many other fans do. You are correct, following Jesus can be very difficult, and there are many obstacles thrown in our path, but, Jesus never promised it would be easy, just rewarding. I had nice parents, but they were strong disciplinarians, especially my dad, whom I locked horns with several times; guess we were too much alike in some ways. Guess the saying “What doesn’t kill us, makes us stronger”, is true. My aunt, on my mom’s side, had a similar experience with a little girl appearing to her every night for awhile; She said the child would dance for her, ballet, then disappear. My aunt was still a child, herself at that time, and after she grew up and married, she had two children, a girl, then a boy; the girl was my age, we were born only a few months apart, and there was something different and special about my cousin, the whole family noticed, she was a very sweet and loving child, and I knew, even then, that she was smarter and nicer than I was. Not that I was a brat or anything, but I could be stubborn and contrary at times, which she never was, that I witnessed. When she was five years old, she was out walking with her brother and grandmother, on her dad’s side, when she was hit by a car and killed. I was still too young to grasp the situation entirely, but knew something bad had happened to my cousin. As an adult, I, sometimes, wondered about the experience my aunt had with the little girl who danced for her, and wondered if she might have been my cousin coming to visit in the spirit. Didn’t God say something to the effect, that “Before you were in the womb, I knew ye.”? Anyway, thanks, again for all you do, and so happy you did not allow your negative experience with your mom to break your spirit; perhaps she had a negative childhood, herself, which prevented her from being able to love, as she wanted to. My dad had a bad childhood, but he still managed to be a pretty good dad, even if he was very strict. I recall him telling my brother, sister & I, “If you can’t get up to go to church, to give God a couple of hours, that’s ok, but then, don’t plan on giving the rest of the day to your friends.” That, usually, inspired us to make the effort to get out of bed, and attend worship service. I’m glad it did, for once there, I learned many useful things, which stayed with me, although I wasn’t as appreciative, then, as I later became. There have been other strange experiences I’ve had, one, in particular, when I was in 5th grade, that I took for granted, and never questioned God’s blessing, but that is for another time to talk about as I have taken up a lot of space, already. God’s blessing to you and to all, may none be lost to the evil one.

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      • Hi Ladybug, yes, she did have very difficult upbringing. Her mother died in her childbirth and she bitterly regretted it. she felt unloved as in Korean society at the time, if you didn’t have your own mother, step mothers didn’t feel moved to really reach out. She detested her step mother with a passion. Her father sided with her step mother to her great horror. She felt unloved by everyone but her grandmother, who spoiled her to compensate. She became a horrible brat princess in a wealthy family. No one disciplined her but no one really loved her either. Not with the kind of time and attention a child really craves. Then came the Korean war. Her father sided with the south and they lived in the north. Her father was dragged a way one night and shot. Her step mother grabbed her and told her to run to southern cousins- the Korean way is to kill the first born of enemies. She was the first born. So she was a starving refugee, this princess brat. She became bitter and independent and determined. Instead of coming under the wing of her southern family who wanted to conveniently marry her off, she determined to be free- to go to America by marrying a U.S. soldier. She picked my dad because she was beautiful and thought she could control him. Let’s just say it was not a match made in heaven. What she took for weakness was simply passive aggressiveness. He quietly refused to give her what she wanted and she violently demanded everything. Nothing gave except violence and pain- and everyone paid for it. She ended up dying of tongue cancer- a terrible, terrible way to die. I think God punished her in a very symbolic way- that mouth of hers harmed so many people. She loved Jesus but refused to obey him. She never forgave, she never loved. And I know she is in heaven, but she paid a terrible price. She died with horrible vultures around her- with no one to love her. Ladybug, my siblings continue to hate her and wish her in hell- me? I utterly forgive her. I am GLAD she is in heaven. How can I ever wish more punishment than what she got from God? People in this life need to let go of their past. They need to forgive those who have come against them. Especially their parents. If at all possible. Freedom lies that way. Only prison lies in the path of hate. That is what I have learned. Even toward my attacker. I plan on going the full measure against him. But not of my own accord- of his. Me? I would have chosen the peaceful way. But it has been denied to me. Such is life.

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      • OMG! How horrible for your mom and for you and your siblings! All people need and crave love, and often look for it in the wrong places, and if not appreciated and loved as a child, they, often, never learn to love. Thank goodness you did learn to care and love, in spite of the unfortunate background. My dad never got along with his mother; they never associated, since he was two years old, and she and his dad divorced, eventually, married other people and had more children. He had a good relationship with his dad, and liked his stepmom, but that was long after he grew up. He and his older sister, age 5, were sent to live with their maternal grandparents, after their parents divorced. The grandmother and aunt was loving to them, but the grandfather was a mean tempered German, who beat him, and once, when he was four years old, knocked him unconscious with a board; the women were trying to revive him, and did. The grandfather wasn’t as mean to his sister, just, mostly ignored her. Thank God, he survived the horror, but it did leave him kind of emotionally scarred. My paternal grandmother lived only about three miles from us, but I only recall visiting her once, when I was about three or four, when her sister, my great aunt, took me there when she went for a visit. I remember that my aunt was crying as we walked home, and I did not understand why, but knew it had something to do with her sister. My great aunt was more of a grandmother to me, and spoiled me and my sister and brother as kids. My mom came from a much less volatile family, and grew up with a loving mother and dad, and they had a big family, who were close all their lives, I have very happy memories of my time with them and all my many cousins, whom I still keep in touch with. My parent’s relationship, eventually, became normal and better, but from the stories I heard, it wasn’t so in the beginning. My dad drank a lot, then, and had a big temper. By the time we kids came along, he had become more mellow, and went to church, and we were raised in a Christian environment. One of my cousins joined the army, married a German girl, who was. actually, from the Communist side of Germany, and her mom was taken away by the Communist soldiers when my cousin’s wife was just a little girl, they never saw her again, and never learned what happened to her. Her dad owned a business in East Germany, so wouldn’t leave, but wanted his daughter and son to go to West Germany, but the brother wouldn’t go, and joined the Communist army, but she and several friends swam the river under cover of darkness to get to West Germany, carrying whatever luggage they could, and my cousin in law had a full size poodle dog who went with her. It was a story right out of, what sounded like, a horror movie, just as yours is, but the human spirit is much stronger that we, often give it credit for, and can be very determined to survive what it has to. God is working with each of us in getting us where we need to be, and with our co-operation, it can be a great and successful adventure, which ends in a beautiful life, if we trust him. Why some have it so much easier is puzzling, but I trust that God knows what he is doing, so just let him do his job, and don’t try to interfere, unless he asks me to in order to help. Not because he needs my help, but because he knows I need to help. There is a saying on a plac in my church which says: “Yesterday is history, Tomorrow is a mystery, Today is a gift…that’s why its called The present.” I like that, and try to remember it when I am tempted to ask why, concerning something I can’t comprehend. Enjoy your week, SLR, and its been a pleasure sharing our stories, thank you, and may God continue to bless you! I feel confident you are going to win your court case, and will pray that you do. God is just and merciful.

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      • lol- indeed, the human spirit is an amazing thing. I love how the poodle went with. I can see it in my mind. The most important thing to remember is love and forgiveness. It really is. It helps to free us from our chains. My attacker makes me angry sometimes but I think I detest his lawyer even more than him. I think the lawyer is the true criminal. I remember my attacker. He was stupid and careless- he is ambitious and power hungry and selfish. But I think this lawyer is the one who is truly evil. I feel it in him. As to my attacker, it’s truly too bad he never apologized. I would have forgiven him and all this would not be happening. My life is happy, despite what happened so long ago. I have released the past completely- I have forgiven my parents and everyone else. To hang on and to hate is to be in jail. To forgive and release to be free.

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  54. Dear Short Little Rebel. I wanted to commend you on such an articulate message. This also includes your responses to Carmen. I have found that many people who choose atheism over Christ fail to understand the basic foundation of faith. They routinely try to battle the argument for faith. However, they fail to realize that in order to disbelieve that Christ exist, they must have faith that He does not. Fortunately for people like us, use of the scriptures provides the only foundation we need to live by. Unfortunately, those who hear the word and don’t believe see God’s word as a barrier to their freedom and not a source of freedom. May God richly bless you for your work.

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  55. Carmen is actually right , and I am Christian if you want to know . And too sit here and try too say that she’s wrong because she’s smarter than you is downright ignorant, science is proven ok , it is whether you like it or not. And all this stuff about God is not proven at all . Now ur probably wondering how are u Christian if you think that . And that answer is I don’t let asshole Christians like u change my religion, I believe in God because Shit why not . Most homosexuals don’t believe in God because YOU make him sound like an asshole . And saying that children who are adopted into a homosexual house hold is child abuse, makes you sound dumb as fuck . You obviously haven’t done your research on that part at all . Because most kids that are adopted by homosexuals are STRAIGHT . And haha jokes on you but 95% of homosexuals come from straight individuals. So fuck your logic and fuck you . Now you have a nice blessed day

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    • Like, Joy, “science is proven”, like, right? Like, really, Joy? Really? Like, when ‘science’ said the world was flat? Like then? Joy? Like science was proven then? Like, when doctors thought putting slugs to suck the illness out of the ‘bad blood’ of sick people was, like, a great idea, Joy, like then, like, oh mah God, was science ,like proven then, too? Joy, was it then? How about when, like, scientists thought they could, like, use alchemy, to like, make gold, and somehow, like, mix spiritual enlightenment, and like, find the fountain of youth, like, and make gold, like was science proven then, Joy? How about when mercury was used to cure diseases? like, was science proven then, Joy? like, oh may God! Joy? How about when scientists and thought the earth was made of ‘fire’, ‘water’ and ‘air’ and ‘mineral’ . like, shit, Joy? was science proven then?

      Joy! you make me laugh! Get a grip on yourself girl. Science is the LAST THING in the world that has been proven. What is wrong with this new generation?? Do you not even understand that what you call Science doesn’t even exist? The term ‘science’ is simply a concept. There is the pursuit of science, I suppose. There exists various methods by which information can be verified. But one can never say such an ignorant thing as ‘Science is proven!’ Please either increase your world view or your vocabulary’s precision, young lady.

      Science is not in the business of Disproving anything. It merely sets forward a hypothesis and then seeks to prove it true. It TRIES to prove it true. And then, it stands there, naked, hoping upon hope to NOT be proven untrue by the next grad student who happens along who feels that the experiment lacked in it’s vigor or process! My girl, the world of science is very careful to avoid the word ‘fact’ because they have enough intelligence to know that we know almost nothing. In fact, the sign of genius is the acknowledgement that mankind grasps almost nothing in the vastness of what we have yet to know. Only a nincompoop thinks mankind knows anything at all. I say nincompoop because this person fails to even look around and be amazed at the literal infinity of facts and knowledge that surrounds them- all screaming for uncovery- I do not say ‘dis’covery, I say ‘un’covery! No, the nincompoop stands there in their selfish, egocentric selfabsorbed little world and sees nothing! And they take it for a fact that ‘SCIENCE has been proven’!

      Joy. For the sake of yourself. For the sake of representing Christ well. EDUCATE yourself and stop being a nincompoop. And clean up your language, little miss. It gives no credit to your parents. It gives no credit to your church. It gives no credit to Christ, whom you are supposed to represent. You obviously failed to read the scripture I put into this article. You obviously don’t care. But let me tell you something, Joy. There is only ONE place that tells us about God and that is the bible. So if your ‘religion’ is in disagreement with that little book, then it is not in alignment with God. And if it is not in alignment with God, then you are not pleasing HIM. It is not ME you are defying, it is God. So, when you speak to him next, remember that. He is not pleased with you. You need to mature and grow up. You need to read your bible and stop following the world. Jesus told us, “If you were of the world, the world would love you. But you are not of the world, for I took you out of it. The world will hate you because it hated me first.” Joy, note that you and the world hates ME for my words. Yet it loves YOU. I stand for the bible and its words. You defy it. The world hates Me for standing by the bible. It loves YOU for standing against it. Thus, you are WITH the world and against Jesus, whom you claim to love. Christ said, “Not everyone who calls Lord, Lord will I hear. I will say, I never knew you- Go away you evil servant!” and they will be thrown into the pit of fire. That will be YOU, Joy, if you do not come into obedience. You can’t have it both ways. It is NICE to be loved by the world. I KNOW. I was once in your shoes. But God requires a choice. A sacrifice, as it were. You will be HATED, like I am hated. But you will know true joy because God will give you the peace and joy that passes all understanding. You day of choice is quickly approaching Joy! This is what God sends from me to You. Pick wisely.

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      • Heterosexuals are great.
        Homosexuals are great.
        Bisexuals are great.
        Pansexuals are great.
        Asexuals are great, and so is everybody else belonging to every other sexuality and gender.

        God is fantastic, and so is Jesus. Why can’t we all just get along, ladys? And, for your information, it’s a myth that most non-heterosexuals aren’t Christians or don’t believe in God.

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      • Hi Nicole, how old are you? 17? It’s not a myth that most homosexuals are atheists or some other God hating ‘ism’ or ‘ist’. It is sadly true. That is because they know full well what the Bible has to say about God’s opinion on the matter of their sexual practices. Further, there is no such thing as a homosexual, asexual, pansexual, etc. There are only human beings who make choices with their bodies. Even the people who claim these titles would agree with this as their own histories bear witness to the fact. Many have lived full lives as a fully functioning heterosexual. They simply chose a hedonistic, free for all sexual heyday as a lifestyle- free from all commitment, children, marriage and any other kind of responsibility. They want to wash their hands of what they view as the drudgery of everyday life- the stress of doing the right thing- going to a job they hate, supporting a home for their kids, dealing with baseball practices they detest, going to school plays they hate, etc. They just can’t take the lifestyle anymore. They want the FREEDOM of the non-heterosexual, or should I say, the moral, God fearing, lifestyle. I can understand the temptation, but not the decision. Who doesn’t want the easy, self glorifying, gluttonous way? Just look at gay pride parades. They tell you everything you will ever need to know about the motives of why people CHOOSE the gay lifestyle. Period. While you may think everything is ‘good’, God does not hold the same opinion. And his is the only opinion that matters, I’m afraid. That’s the thing about being God. You’re God. You’re the boss. You are the top. Your way is the only way. You get to decide. Lucky for us, he is a Good God. Were he evil, we would all be dead meat. But he is good. Thus, all his ways are good. There is no other logical conclusion to make. Any other conclusion is chaos and makes no sense. Thus, if he says sexuality must work in a certain way for our health, then he is right. After all, he created us and knows what and how we are. He knows how we function. It’s like a car manufacturer knows how their cars should be maintained. You really can’t argue. People are ruining their minds, bodies and souls by disobeying. This is readily seen by the suicide rates, depression and even disease that these communities carry within themselves. They are never happy. They might try to blame everyone else, especially Christians, for their happiness, but it comes from within themselves and their choice. As to us all getting along, you will see that Christians don’t hate people, but the homosexuals most certainly hate us. You can take that to the bank.

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    • The First Law of Thermodynamics is called a “law” because within the bounds of scientific observation it has been proven true beyond all reasonable doubt. In effect, the First Law states that you and I can neither create nor destroy matter.

      This a not a theory, but a LAW of science. There is no scientific evidence that proves that the universe created itself.

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  56. I’ve never understood why homosexuality/bisexuals is seen as bad. I know a couple who are bi, and always seem to be happiest in each other’s company. And when they make eye contact, it’s almost like the universe has stopped just for them. What makes it so wrong if they’re happy?

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    • Hi Rose, you ask why they are seen as ‘bad’. I don’t see them as ‘bad’. That isn’t my feeling on the matter. I see them as being completely severed from God, and as such, I am concerned on many levels.

      First, I am concerned about the massive political push that homosexuals are having on our society today. They are not content to just live their lives as they see fit. If they were, I would not be writing about it. I write about it because they insist on pushing into my life and forcing me and everyone else to call their actions, ‘moral, good and right.’ They don’t stop there. No. They also want to punish me and everyone else if we won’t say that what they do is ‘good, moral and right’. They will punish my child if he won’t say it is ‘moral, right and good.’ That is why I write about it. Homosexuals have become violent and are out for blood. Especially against Christians. They are aggressively and intentionally attacking Christian businesses with the sole intent of destroying them. Even innocent businesses that have been kind and supportive of their community. They do this out of sheer hatred and spite. Is that right in your mind? Yet, at the same time, when a Christian goes to a gay bakery or a gay florist and asks them to create a cake or flower for an anti-gay rally, they say, “No way! Why would we do that? We are GAY!” I have seen videos where a Christian activist called gay businesses and recorded their responses- unbelievable. They say the exact things they are suing Christian businesses for saying- only they are RUDE, violent and use curse words! They fail to see their own hypocrisy in the matter. That is why I see them as hypocritical.

      For those that are not violent, I feel concern only for their future, for their fate. They will die forever. Most homosexuals also claim to be atheists. They are not atheists as there is no such thing. There are only disobedient children of God. Everyone knows that God exists. Everyone. Therefore, when they see him, he will punish them for their disobedience. They can’t lie to God and say they really didn’t know he existed. The reason they claim he doesn’t exist is because they know that the Bible expressly states that God does not approve of a man lying with a man or a woman with a woman. This is not what God intended for mankind. God intended man for woman in holy matrimony. There are deep reasons for this- but it would take too long to explain in this comment. Read my article, You are not Gay, You are a Child of God, for that explanation. Because they know this, they run from God. But this endangers their very lives. Is sex worth it? That is my question? No, it’s not. Not in my opinion. Obedience is easier and worth it. What is sex compared to eternal joy, laughter, fun and happiness? I’ll take the latter, thank you. Satan works to push homosexuality because he understands how completely separating it is from God. Because sex is something you do all the time (unlike murder, stealing, lying, etc), it is a sin that utterly separates a person from God. That is why satan loves it so much. That is WHY it is being pushed as much as you see on t.v., movies, magazines, books, etc. Ever wondered about that? Why homosexuality is such a huge topic when so few people are homosexuals? Well, there you are. Satan has great power on earth- HE is pushing this agenda. So, long answer to a short question.

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  57. HI Susan,
    I wanted to ask you what you would tell someone like me, someone who grew up Christian and believes that Jesus Christ is the ONLY way into heaven, someone who believes that Jesus died for our since, and that the only thing that we bring to, “the great exchange” is our sin, that He fulfilled the law and paid the price for our since, someone who has fought his whole life against gay feelings and prayed ceaselessly, even fasting, all to no avail?
    I have searched the bible for confirmation that I could still receive salvation, and believe that there is a biblical basis for the fact that i will actually receive salvation, but that I will have a low, “station” in heaven because I did not overcome. That is my first question; I trust that you can tell I am sincere in my inquiry and not at all aggressive or argumentative – this is a very real struggle in my life.
    My second question is whether or not you have read 1 and 2 Samuel in its entirety – have you seen that it is written that David and Jonathan became one in spirit, and that scripture even goes so far as to describe how David disrobed for Jonathan and that he later directly compares Jonathan’s love to that of a woman’s, and says that it surpassed the love of a woman?
    My last question is my most challenging; do you believe in predestination? If you do, do you believe that God has then ordained that homosexuals are never to receive salvation?
    Hoping you will pray about it and read the scripture that I have directed you to before answering – I am not arguing with you, merely looking for answers on a very difficult topic.

    Hopeful,

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    • Hi Dave, yes, I have read the books of which you speak. No, they were not homosexuals. They were performing what is known as a covenant ritual. They exchanged robes and slaughtered animals, divided them and then walked between them- such as happens in a marriage ceremony- another covenant ritual. This type of covenant ritual would also take place between a king/priest and God. You would have to know Hebrew tradition to understand this covenant ritual to understand the significance. Luckily for you, my pastor recently gave a lecture on this very ritual and its meaning in church! So I can answer you with some education on the matter. So, this wasn’t an erotic situation. It was done in public as a ceremony, which is why it was written down. It wasn’t a secret or private thing. It was a life long covenant between them, making them more than brothers- their finances, lives, families, everything, was then tied together from that point on. You see this come to fruition later when Jonathan’s father, the King, tries to kill David, but Jonathan refuses to help and in fact, defies his own father to help David. In fact, Jonathan, who is destined to become king, gives up his own thrown willingly to David because he feels that David would make the better king. Such was their bond of covenant. But both marry and have families. Homosexuality was deeply frowned upon by both and by the Hebrew community. David was a man of God who pleased God in all that he did. God was happy with him. God stated his hatred for homosexuality during this time many times. IF David had committed homosexual acts, it would have been mentioned by God as one of his sins- certainly his sin of adultery with Uriel’s wife was listed by God in the bible. So, I hope that answers one of your questions. When David murdered Uriel just to cover up Uriel’s wife’s pregnancy from his adultery with her, God listed that as his sin in the Bible too. God had no problem listing David’s sins. In fact, God went so far as to say that these were his ONLY sins that he held against David. Other than these, he found in David the ‘perfect servant’. I think God might have mentioned homosexual acts considering how much he hates them, don’t you?

      Ok, to the next question. First, there are no ‘levels’ of heaven. That is a Mormon belief. Mormonism is a cult. Don’t get involved with them. Second, anyone can find salvation through Christ. Anyone. I believe you that you struggle with homosexuality. And I believe you that this is very difficult to over come. Listen, I want you to know that you are not the only one in the world who struggles with sin and lust!! Do you not know that ‘heterosexuals’ struggle with all kinds of lust too? I want to caution you from calling yourself a ‘homosexual’, ok? Don’t label yourself as anything other than a child of God, for that is what you truly are. That is what we all ARE. That is our identity. None of us is identified through our behavior. That would be like saying that someone who struggled with stealing is a thief. No, they are a child of God who struggles with the sin of stealing. They can be taught to control their behavior. As can you. As can we all. Sex is a behavior we choose everyday. That is what I know. You are a man. Perhaps sexual urges are stronger in a man than in a woman. But here is what I know- I would NEVER give up the billions of years of life I know are mine for a few handful of orgasms on this earth. No. way. In my calculating brain, I don’t see that adding up. But like I said, that is me, a woman, calculating. It would not be difficult for me to make that choice. There is no amount of sexual pleasure that could make me trade in billions of years of bliss for a couple of guilty tosses in bed. Nope. I would rather have a less satisfying sex life with a less satisfying partner (ie, the sex that God told me to be with), have kids the way God told me to and then when he called me home, go home to him and have him satisfied with me. But that’s just me.

      Dave, you have got to stop seeing life in such a myopic way. All you see is your pleasure here on earth. You need to understand that your life is not 80 years long. Your life is BILLIONS of years long. You are meant to live with me, with all your brothers and sisters in Christ, ruling even the angels, for Trillions of years in JOY, complete freedom and bliss. Don’t you want that? No more sorrow. No more pain. No more tears. No more distress. No more financial worries. Only passion, exploration, interest, fascination, time, relationships to explore, jobs to do, good to do- personally, I want to learn to do all the things I don’t have time to do now. Jesus said that the next world will even be more beautiful than this one. I can never find the time to just sit next to a stream and watch the fish in it- can you imagine being with someone you love and not be in rush to leave a stream as you lay there, watching and watching? I have no doubt Jesus will create a world even more full of animals and forest and wonder then this earth. Why would mere sex in bathrooms replace that???

      All that aside. The problem as I see it with homosexuality and salvation is this, Dave: Salvation requires repentance. The problem with modern churches that say that you can be a Christian and a practicing ‘homosexual’ is that there is no repentance of an acknowledged sin. You must consider to yourself, “What does repentance mean?” Repentance means that you humble yourself to God and agree that his way is the right and moral way. You accept his law as the ONLY law of what is right and what is wrong. You acknowledge that what you do is SIN and WRONG and that you will try to never do it again. You acknowledge that you are helpless to do what is right in his eyes. You kneel before God in your helpless state and beg Jesus to cover you in his blood to save you from yourself- from your own inability to stop sinning. And that is it. And Dave, that sounds like where you are. If that is where you are, then you will receive salvation, same as me. Because guess what? I can’t stop sinning either. So we are equal, dear. And we will see the same heaven.

      HOWEVER, what you may not do is sin at will. What you may not do is carry on a homosexual lifestyle as if you had never repented. You may not throw up your hands in helplessness and make a claim like, “Well, I can’t help it, so I just get to keep doing it! and Jesus must just forgive it over and over and over again without me having to repent every single time!” Can a thief get this kind of grace? Can he or she just keep stealing every single day after repenting? Can they have a stealing lifestyle and then expect acceptance in the church and expect complete salvation from God? No. Absurd. Repentance implies a wish to change. A deep seated desire to do what is right, according to God’s will, not your own will. You must fight temptation to sin with all your might- just like the rest of us. There is absolutely nothing special or more difficult about having lust for the wrong people, Dave. Join the rest of the human species. Does it mean you will never fall down? NO. You probably will fall down. But then, guess what? All you must do is come to the cross again and just apologize. That’s all. You haven’t lost your salvation, my dear. No one can take your salvation away from you except you yourself. You can only take it away from yourself if you say to Jesus, “Jesus, I renounce you and I curse you in the name of Satan! I curse God the Father in the name of satan!” Short of actually aligning your life with satan and cursing your Lord and Savior and God, you can’t be taken away from Jesus. His promise is true and can’t be broken. That is his COVENANT, which is true.

      Speaking of David and Jonathan’s covenant! The animal, Jesus, was cut in two and you walked through the blood, thus sealing the covenant between you and God. You see? That is the parallel of the old fashioned Hebrew sacrifice of covenant and God’s new covenant with us through the sacrifice of his Son, Jesus Christ.

      Rest in the peace of Jesus, Dave. As much as I write about homosexuality, I love all people who struggle with it. I hate those who push this sin upon our culture and call it ‘good’. It separates people from God. I am so very happy you wrote to me. If you have any further questions, please write back. Keep up the good fight. Remember, you are not ALONE in your struggle against sin. My sin is pride. I hate my sin and I must come back to the cross almost daily. I yearn to be free of this body because of it. None of us are free of the sin that drags us down. Sometimes just the act of living is a terrible thing. But we do not live to please ourselves, my dear. We live to PLEASE THE ONE WHO MADE US. If we can just realize that; if we can just stop focusing on self; we can live a life worth living; a life of which we can be very proud.

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  58. You should practice your own advise. It sounds to me that you kind of lost it with some of your responses on this issue. I have my own stand in terms of homosexuality, but as a pastor of 33 years I am searching for a way to present God’s love to all of the people in my community and greater area. The issue can stand in the way of accomplishing ministry. Far to much, denominations and churches hide behind their strict doctrines and never truly find a way to minister to their whole community. Instead of asking, “What does Jesus say about homosexuality?”, maybe we need to be asking, “How would Jesus love and witness to the gay community?” Just my thoughts.

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    • Hi Leo, well, it is very easy to stand behind a pulpit and preach to Christians and to attack a fellow Christian from behind your computer. At least I am trying to reach out to the homosexual community with the truth of the Bible. Most people either remain silent on the issue or outright lie about it. Which one are you? Just because you call yourself a pastor means nothing at all in God’s eyes. The Apostles were unlearned men- the enemies of Christ were the ones most schooled in the religion of the day. What matters is how determined the individual is to obey God. If you are a pastor, then you know what the Bible says. Christ said that to love God is to OBEY him. This is the first thing, the only thing, the primary thing. To show love to the homosexual community is to first tell them the truth: what they are doing will lead them to their death. Most homosexuals also claim atheism. You know that. This is because they are ashamed of what they do- they know it is wrong in God’s eyes. Thus, rather than give up the lust and gratification of it, they give up God. This is the decision that ultimately kills them. You can’t sugarcoat the message to them. They are in dire need of the truth and no one is willing to give it to them. Pastors like you are killing them- literally. Behind your desire to give them ‘love’ is actually cowardice. It is a desire to protect yourself and your church from their rage and political backlash. Either that, or you are at philosophical war with your own God, believing yourself to be wiser than He. But you aren’t. Do you believe that God is wrong in this matter? Is he unloving when he says they will die for what they do? Is he unfair? Are his words too harsh? Was Apostle Paul too harsh?

      What has happened to the Word of God? It has become so watered down that no one can speak it anymore without being called a hater anymore from their own ranks. I call that sad, indeed. Sometimes, Leo, the Truth sounds like death but it is actually the only way to give life. It may sound harsh- but it the most helpful thing you can do for someone. All I know is this: this article is one of the most read articles on my site. Do you know why? People contemplating homosexuality NEED and WANT to know what Jesus actually had to say about homosexuality. This is because there is an urban myth among the homosexual community that the New Testament, and specifically Christ, never claimed homosexuality to be a sin. These individuals want to know if they will sin if they take up this lifestyle. Thus, this article is helping thousands and thousands of people from going down this very difficult and potentially deadly pathway. I am very glad I wrote it.

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      • Hallelujah!! Short Little Rebel, I couldn’t have defended the Truth better myself! Thanks be to the Living God, and to you for your courage and inspiration 😀

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    • How would Jesus love and witness to the gay community?
      He would tell them straight out that if they did not cease their sinful lifestyle, they would burn in hell for all eternity.
      Letting somebody die in sin and burn in hell is not what Jesus meant by loving your neighbor.

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  59. Ezekiel 3:18 (NIV)

    When I say to a wicked person, ‘You will surely die,’ and you do not warn them or speak out to dissuade them from their evil ways in order to save their life, that wicked person will die for their sin, and I will hold you accountable for their blood.

    Following is a great commentary on this verse. It explains what will happen to a teacher of the Word who is more concerned with attracting sinners into his church, and not telling them to cease their sin immediately and repent. To allow someone to die in sin is not loving your neighbor.

    http://www.godvine.com/bible/ezekiel/3-18

    Clarke’s Commentary on Ezekiel 3:18

    Thou shalt surely die – That is, If he turn not from his wickedness, and thou givest him not warning, as above, he shalt die in his iniquity, which he should not have committed; but his blood will I require at thy hand – I will visit thy soul for the loss of his. O how awful is this! Hear it, ye priests, ye preachers, ye ministers of the Gospel; ye, especially, who have entered into the ministry for a living, ye who gather a congregation to yourselves that ye may feed upon their fat, and clothe yourselves with their wool; in whose parishes and in whose congregations souls are dying unconverted from day to day, who have never been solemnly warned by you, and to whom you have never shown the way of salvation, probably because ye know nothing of it yourselves! O what a perdition awaits you! To have the blood of every soul that has died in your parishes or in your congregations unconverted laid at your door! To suffer a common damnation for every soul that perishes through your neglect! How many loads of endless wo must such have to bear! Ye take your tithes, your stipends, or your rents, to the last grain, and the last penny; while the souls over whom you made yourselves watchmen have perished, and are perishing, through your neglect. O worthless and hapless men! better for you had ye never been born! Vain is your boast of apostolical authority, while ye do not the work of apostles! Vain your boast of orthodoxy, while ye neither show nor know the way of salvation! Vain your pretensions to a Divine call, when ye do not the work of evangelists! The state of the most wretched of the human race is enviable to that of such ministers, pastors, teachers, and preachers.

    But let not this discourage the faithful minister who teaches every man, and warns every man, in all wisdom, that he may present every man perfect to Christ Jesus. If after such teaching and warning they will sin on, and die in their sins, their blood will be upon themselves; but thou, O man of God, hast delivered thine own soul.

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  60. Dear Susan,
    I stumbled across your website while reading through the bible. Was doing a little research while in the book of Chronicles. Went down this rabbit trail regarding false idols. I specifically found your post on Homosexuality posted in March of 2013. This is an amazing write. You are very gifted in your ability to teach the truth about Gods word. Since I found this post on my cell phone I went to your website to print this article. I can’t seem to find it. Is it available to print? You are in my prayers now. May God bless you and keep you and may His face continue to shine on you.

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    • I’m not sure I understand you. You are commenting on this article, thus it exists. How can you not see it as you are commenting on it? Yes, it does exist. You have the correct link and you are looking at it! Am I missing something? lol.

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  61. I know you probably will not post this but I stumbled upon this website from facebook and Im bothered. Im a gay male but do not act as the men in the picture you posted. I was raised that homosexuality was a sin and believed it. I wasnt happy trying to lie to women. I wanted to be with a woman so bad. I want a family. I cried growing up not understanding why I was so sick. I prayed and prayed. I couldnt have sex with women because i could not become aroused enough to partake. I wanted to. Does this mean I can never love? Ill never spend my life with anyone because I couldnt committ like most men. I dont want to be this way. You compare it to lying, stealing and adultry like its the same. You can choose not to do those things and still live a normal life. I cant. I can chose to be alone or be with a women that I cant lay with because there is something wrong with me. Everyone is entitled to their opinion but you act like you’re an expert on this. You dont know the feeling as a child begging to be normal because you know something is wrong with you. At the end you dont have to agree but its not your place to judge.

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    • Hi David, I’m not judging you. I’m just telling you the truth. My heart aches for you and for the story you tell. I’m not sure what your physical issue is. Or even what your emotional issue is. I don’t know your family history; I don’t know if you were abused by your parents. I don’t know if you were sexually abused by a man when you were young, but somehow, I get a feeling you might have been. There are so many things that could have happened to you as a young boy that could have produced these feelings within you. None of which you would feel free talking about with a stranger online. But I do know this: God did create us man and woman and he did intend for us to be happy with one another. He is not a cruel God. He doesn’t intend for us to be alone. Are there people who might be asexual- in other words, not really interested in sex at all? I think so. But are there people who MUST be with the same sex naturally? I don’t think so. I really don’t, David. I think these people are created through abuse or by choice. The statistics show that homosexuals are 4 times more likely to have been sexually abused that heterosexuals. Also, that they enter into sexuality years earlier than heterosexuals. They also are many more times likely to be abusers of alcohol and drugs than heterosexuals. Also, that they end up 14 times more likely to kill themselves. This study was just released by the John Hopkins Hospital which is the foremost medical group on transgender & homosexual studies in the world. The homosexual population is an unhappy group that has been, by and large, abused by people in their lives. This tells me alot, David. This tells me that perhaps kids that might otherwise have gone on to lead normal, happy lives were abused by their parents, uncles, strangers or others in their lives and were waylaid somehow in their development. Rape or even sexual conditioning by more mature adults can lead to this as well. Nowadays, even culture is pushing youngsters as young as 10 and 11 to make these choices when they might merely be curious or feel unpopular. ‘Coming out’ is the newest way to become an instant star at school! But it is also an instant way to become part of the most unhappy group in the world.

      The foremost doctors at John Hopkins are warning that we should not be celebrating and encouraging such young children to make these types of proclamations at such young ages. All studies show that if we just let children alone, they will almost all choose heterosexual lifestyles on their own. This is a good thing. And it proves that people aren’t ‘born that way’. It proves that people CAN be highly influenced to make these decisions and then, be trapped by them. Doesn’t it?

      David, as I said, I don’t know enough about you history to understand how you came to where you are but I do know God. And I trust in him. He is not a cruel God. I BELIEVE every word you said. I believe you don’t feel attracted to women. I believe you feel only attracted to men now. But I don’t believe you started out that way. I believe you were affected by someone or by several people in your life. I believe you were injured by people, frightened by people. Perhaps even by those who called themselves Christians.

      Here is what I know: I wrote this article for YOU. I wrote it for everyone to at least know the truth. God is REAL, David. And so is Jesus. If you think giving up sex is so hard, how hard do you think it was to decide to allow himself to be beaten, mocked by all those people in the streets, carry that heavy wooden cross in front of everyone, have that thorny crown shoved upon his scalp until he bled, nailed hand and foot onto the cross and then have his body heaved up, up and up until finally his body slammed into position as the cross came to rest in the dirt? How hard was it to have his Children look at him with hatred- the very ones he came to save? To have them all doubt him, laugh at his naked and bleeding body and be GLAD he was suffering? David, do you think that was an easy decision? Do you think it was an easy decision for God to allow his only Son to do that for us? No, it wasn’t. I think Jesus knows a thing or two about sacrificing a thing or two for the greater good. And in this case, it is for YOUR greater good- for your soul.

      David, there is a God. And you know it. Jesus came to die for you and for me. And the only thing standing between you and Jesus is what? sex? Is sex that important to you? I would give up sex in two seconds for what I have in Jesus today. I know you think, “sure you would”, but I would. As Apostle Paul said,

      I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. 19 For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. 20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God.

      22 We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time. 23 Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies. 24 For in this hope we were saved. But hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what they already have? 25 But if we hope for what we do not yet have, we wait for it patiently.”
      Romans 8:18

      But then again, I know what I have and you don’t so it’s easier for me to say. I have the joy already. But I can witness to what I have, can’t I? I can TELL you about what I have in Jesus and I can tell you that it is worth the sacrifice, can’t I? The joy I have in this life FAR exceeds any kind of sex or relationship I could find on this earth. Even my loving husband and children can’t compare to the joy I have in Christ. the joy I have in God is white hot- it is more than I can handle sometimes. I have to back away in prayer sometimes because I feel I might explode into little pieces. My body can’t handle the joy. That is how great it is. I know why our bodies must be remade before we can enter heaven, David. It is because we literally can’t handle the joy and the magnificence that is God. David, no amount of sex or human love can compare to that. Your eternal life with God is worth EVERYTHING you have. It is true- better to cut off your arm than to lose your soul.

      My advice to you, my dear brother, is to STOP having sex with men right now. God doesn’t fault our minds. He faults our actions. Just repent for your actions and ask for forgiveness. It is easily given, my dear brother. Then, come to church and just rest in Christ for a bit, why don’t you? Take a load off and stop worrying for a while. Read the Bible and find all the promises of God. Stop focusing on only one issue. Take a break from this one sin. You can do this. Pray and talk to other Christians. Find other Christians who have walked your same walk. Everyone sins. This is the truth. There is forgiveness for all.

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  62. Thank you. I was beginning to worry about the immorality of society and how it is corrupting our youth. I have children and trying to raise them to believe and follow the path of God (as it is my responsibility to do so). But when you have schools and society teaching them differently, and teaching them that their parents are wrong, it proves difficult.
    Anyhow, thank you.

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    • you are welcome! It’s important to know that this subject is addressed in the New Testament and also by Jesus. Many try to say that it is only addressed in the Old Testament and therefore, is ‘no longer valid’. Then, some try to say that ‘only Paul, who wasn’t a true Apostle’ said something about it in the New Testament, and so, it is not valid. So, I wrote this article to show that it is in the Old, the New and that Jesus himself addressed it. The facts need to be out in order to properly instruct and so that those considering this lifestyle can make the informed choice.

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  63. I shared this on FB and I was called a hater,a bigot and a few other unnecessary names. A family member recently told me he was bisexual and has been for a few years, I had no idea. I’m surprised so many friends and relatives are ok with it. It truly grosses me out by the thought of it. Most people who know me shouldn’t be surprised by my Christian values and where I stand with it. I spoke with the person that recently told me they were gay (grandson) and told him that I love him and accept him but I can’t agree with his life style when it goes against Gods word. He understood but it has definitely changed our relationship and of course my relationship with one that side with a gay lifestyle. I’m still shocked, hurt and angry, wanting to blame someone. Any advice?

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    • Jesus was called ‘Satan’, Joyce. And all he did was heal the sick, raise the dead and bring the good news to people. He told us that we, as his followers, would also be called, ‘satan’. He told us that if they killed and persecuted him, we should expect the same. In case you don’t read your bible, let me give you his words so that you can have comfort:

      “16“I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves. 17Be on your guard; you will be handed over to the local councils and be flogged in the synagogues. 18On my account you will be brought before governors and kings as witnesses to them and to the Gentiles. 19But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say, 20for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.

      21“Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death. 22You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 23When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.

      24“The student is not above the teacher, nor a servant above his master. 25It is enough for students to be like their teachers, and servants like their masters. If the head of the house has been called Beelzebul, how much more the members of his household!

      26“So do not be afraid of them, for there is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. 27What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight; what is whispered in your ear, proclaim from the roofs. 28Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell. 29Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground outside your Father’s care.b 30And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 31So don’t be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.

      32“Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven. 33But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.

      34“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35For I have come to turn

      “ ‘a man against his father,
      a daughter against her mother,
      a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
      36a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’c
      37“Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38Whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it.

      40“Anyone who welcomes you welcomes me, and anyone who welcomes me welcomes the one who sent me. 41Whoever welcomes a prophet as a prophet will receive a prophet’s reward, and whoever welcomes a righteous person as a righteous person will receive a righteous person’s reward. 42And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one of these little ones who is my disciple, truly I tell you, that person will certainly not lose their reward.” – Matt 10

      As you can see, Jesus knew we would have this type of reaction when we told the truth about God and Jesus. But he also said he would bless those who preached in his name and curse those who failed to acknowledge him. Joyce, there is no one to blame except Satan and of course, the people who treated you badly. Each of them is responsible for their own actions. If they are Christians, then they are doubly to blame as they are supposed to love you even more as a brother and sister in Christ. But the very best way to handle this is to rest in the comfort of WHY you shared the article. I’m sure you shared it because you cared about the people in your life and even about strangers. That is why I wrote the article. I wanted to instruct, not condemn. So many people in our country and culture believe that only the Old Testament said something about homosexuality. But that’s not true. The New Testament does also. AND Jesus does too. It’s critical for people, believers and non believers, to be equipped with the TRUTH before they make their choice to sin. That is why I wrote the article and I’m sure that’s why you shared it. It was done in love, not hate. Rest in comfort. That is the refuge I take when I encounter false accusations online. Only God knows my heart- and he knows I blog out of love. HIS opinion is the only one that matters, Joyce. It took courage to share the article. Someday, someone will thank you for it.

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  64. Hi Susan,
    I’m looking to raise a few issues I have with this post of yours. I would like to start by stating that I am a Christian who has no issues with the LGBT+ community as I believe that God calls us to love and accept everyone regardless of gender, race, religion or sexual orientation.
    Firstly, do you wear jeans? Or shorts? Or have you ever worn a cotton dress or shirt with leather shoes? Have you ever eaten shrimp?
    If you wish to take the Bible word for word in it’s interpretation with no relation to today’s society and values (and likely no regard for the context) then Deuteronomy 22:5 states that, “A woman must not wear men’s clothing.” Therefore, if you have ever worn anything other than a dress or a skirt, you have sinned.
    Leviticus 19:19 (also mentioned in Deuteronomy 22:11) says, “Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.” Every outfit you have worn and will ever wear must be the same material, or you have sinned.
    I am bringing these points up to highlight how many Old Testament laws, including those condemning homosexuality are quite outdated in today’s society.
    If you wish to believe that all Old Testament laws must be taken without interpretation, then God says that all sins are equal in his eyes, and so, if you believe that homosexuality is a sin, then you are just as bad. I am not saying that I am perfect, for I know that I have sinned and have asked God for forgiveness and for his grace.
    In the New Testament, Jesus says (in regards to sexual immorality) in John 8:7, “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” Therefore, you may only judge and condemn those who may be gay if you are perfect and had never sinned in your life. Unfortunately, God says that no one but him is perfect and by result, you cannot cast a stone at the “sins” of homosexuality.
    As well as this, Jesus mentions (in Matthew 19: 11-12) how “some are eunuchs because they were born that way.” In this time period, the word eunuch referred to someone who was either castrated, someone who was celibate, or someone who “had many feminine, emasculate qualities…. These men had little to no interest in sexual relations with females.” (religioustolerance.org) In the context of this passage, Jesus is talking about groups of people who are excused from heterosexual marriage. He is accepting them and even saying that they were born that way and therefore made that way by God.
    Therefore, Jesus doesn’t condemn those who are gay, but rather says that they are natural and a part of the kingdom of God. He also says that someone who has sinned may not judge others.
    I appreciate your view on this topic and I hope that you take my view to heart. Thank you.

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    • Jasmine, I appreciate you effort in this matter. I’ve heard it many, many times before. Your entire argument is that you feel that I and others like me fail to take into account the context around the verses I brought up in my article. But you are gravely mistaken, Jasmine. There really are times when context is important when interpreting the Word of God. I think the full richness of the Word can only be understood by understanding the culture in which the Word was given. That being said, I also believe that most of the Bible is culture independent. But you are right, some verses must be seen in context. Now, you want to bring up these three verses.

      You said, “If you wish to take the Bible word for word in it’s interpretation with no relation to today’s society and values (and likely no regard for the context) then Deuteronomy 22:5 states that, “A woman must not wear men’s clothing.” Therefore, if you have ever worn anything other than a dress or a skirt, you have sinned.
      Leviticus 19:19 (also mentioned in Deuteronomy 22:11) says, “Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material.” Every outfit you have worn and will ever wear must be the same material, or you have sinned.”

      and, ” Jesus mentions (in Matthew 19: 11-12) how “some are eunuchs because they were born that way.”

      Let’s take them one by one, shall we? As to the women dressing like men. Where your argument fails is to state that dresses are for women and pants are for men. When this was written, no one wore pants. Everyone wore ‘dresses’. They all wore robes. So, that’s clearly not what is meant. It meant, whatever is understood to be ‘male’ clothing vs. whatever is understood to be ‘female’ clothing. And I’m quite sure this crosses cultures. I believe this equates to cross dressing, not specifically pants. As I said, pants and jeans didn’t even exist then- so your example is meaningless. This is yet another confirmation that God intended the sexes to be different- male and female. Even from the beginning, people were having same sex relationships and men were acting and dressing like women. This was displeasing and angering to God even then and so, is addressed even in the early Bible. This shows how old God’s feelings on these matters are.

      In the second verse you brought up concerning the mixed types of materials. Neither you nor I can understand the cultural context of this command and thus, I don’t think either of us can speak to it. I don’t understand why that was considered a sin back then. I don’t know what it represented to the culture then. It must have represented something sinful to do that back then and so, God forbade it. If we could understand the cultural significance of what wearing two mixed materials meant back then, then we could understand what it might equate to today. But since we are clueless (unless you know more about the culture and can enlighten us?), we must remain unenlightened. But I do know that it really has nothing to do with actually wearing certain materials because of what Apostle Paul told us. Also what Jesus told us. Works don’t save us. Rituals don’t save us. Voo-dooh and magic don’t save us. Wearing certain fabrics won’t save us. Thus, that can’t be the meaning of the text. Furthermore, even if it was a ‘religious’ practice that was instituted by God as part of his impossible LAW, then Christ freed us from the rituals of the Law, but not from the morality of it. It is not a sin to wear different fabrics today. Thus, it is not a sin to wear different fabrics.

      As to the food you bring up- ie, shrimp. That was abolished by two things: first, by Jesus when he said, “11 What goes into someone’s mouth does not defile them, but what comes out of their mouth, that is what defiles them.” 12 Then the disciples came to him and asked, “Do you know that the Pharisees were offended when they heard this?” 13 He replied, “Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots. 14 Leave them; they are blind guides.If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.” 15 Peter said, “Explain the parable to us.” 16 “Are you still so dull?” Jesus asked them. 17 “Don’t you see that whatever enters the mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the body? 18 But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. 20 These are what defile a person; but eating with unwashed hands does not defile them.”

      Why do you think the Pharisees were offended? Because they adhered to the Law. They believed ALL KINDS of foods and behaviors could make a person unclean and therefore, Jesus’ claim that nothing that was put into the mouth could make a person unclean was absurd! blasphemy! But Jesus knew the difference. HE had come to free us all from the LAW. He came to fulfill it utterly and thus, lift the terrible burden of it from our shoulders. We begin to LIVE in freedom with Christ.

      But, Jasmine, don’t believe for ONE MOMENT that we are freed from the MORALITY of the law. All that was defined as sin is still a sin. But the ritual is gone. The cleanliness requirements are gone. The food requirements are gone because they had everything to do with cleanliness. Anything to do with sacrificing is gone. Why? Because the final cleansing and sacrificing has been fulfilled by Jesus! The priesthood is done! Because Jesus is the final and ultimate priest!

      But Jesus said that he didn’t come to CHANGE the law, not even one pen-stroke- he just came to utterly fulfill it. So, what could be fulfilled is fulfilled. But God’s commands concerning sexual immorality is not something that can be ‘fulfilled’, is it, Jasmine? No. That is just a definition of sin that he gave. It is moral guidance. And it is still valid. And I have written an article here that gives you both God’s and Jesus’ words on the matter. And they are in context both to their time and to today’s time. Where is the cultural context that is missing in your mind? It was wrong then and it is wrong now.

      Your Lord Jesus tells you this, “17“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” – Jesus Christ, the Son of God recorded in Matt 5.

      Jasmine, I hope you see that I have taken your arguments seriously. I am your sister in Christ and so, love you. I am not hateful and don’t hate those who have fallen into this homosexual lifestyle. I write what I write in order to help them. I also write to help Christians who don’t understand what their Father in Heaven and what their Lord in Heaven has already instructed on this matter. There are many liars and yes, haters, in this world who might mislead. I wanted to give real proof, from the Bible. This is to give people real choices, eyes wide open. The number one question I get is, “What did JESUS say about homosexuality?” Many people considering this lifestyle have been lied to. they have been taught that Jesus was silent on this topic, but he wasn’t. I want them to have the truth before they decide. Most are extremely young when they make their first foray into this lifestyle. Did you know that young people who begin a homosexual lifestyle are four times more likely to have been sexually molested? (Boys, by men and girls, also by men) Did you know that they become sexually active years earlier than heterosexuals- as early as 13 years old? Again, due to sexual abuse? Did you know that youngsters, if left alone, will almost 100% naturally choose heterosexuality even if they were curious earlier? If this is a true stat (and the John Hopkins recent report says that it is), then all this social pressure and ‘encouragement’ is actually leading young teens purposely into a population group that is fourteen times more likely to kill itself than the rest of the population?

      Why would we push people into a population that by all stats, is so very unhappy? I know you probably don’t believe me, but the study is a medical one done by John Hopkins. It was released this year. Another study was released by Denmark which shows the same results. And they are very accepting of homosexuality. It is just an unhappy lifestyle. Heterosexuals are just happier. If this is so, then leave kids alone. Don’t celebrate and encourage troubled, young teens to gain popularity in school by ‘outting themselves’ and having early sex just to prove themselves. It is very troubling to me, Jasmine.

      You may feel you are doing good in your life. But your emotion of ‘loving’ may actually be doing great harm to people. Have you considered that God might know the human body, mind and soul better than you? Better than your friends or even society? Maybe he knows what truly makes us happy? Maybe he doesn’t just make ‘rules’ about sexuality to be mean, but because he knows what truly makes people happy? People always think they know better than God. But you must grow up and realize that God really does know the pots he created.

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  65. John 8:7 (Jesus is even talking about sexual immorality here, how dandy is that), “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her.” Unless you are perfect, and have never sinned, you have no right to comment on someone else’s lifestyle, especially as it doesn’t affect you in any way, unless someone else being gay suddenly means that your Christ-centered marriage (if you are married) is no longer valid. Whether or not homosexuality is a sin is for God to judge when the time comes, not for you to decide and not for you to degrade a whole society that is part of our world today.
    Thank you from An LGBT+ accepting Christian 🙂

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    • Hi Jasmine, what you are saying is that as Christians, we should never speak about sin. At all. Ever. That we should just go about our lives and never address the sins of this world. We should never condemn murder. We should never condemn greed. We should never condemn adultery. We should never condemn molestation of children. We should never condemn rape. We should never condemn mass suicide. We should never condemn massive government corruption. We should never condemn mass genocide. We should not condemn the Holocaust. We should not condemn Pol Pot’s regime. We should not condemn the terrorists that flew their planes into the twin towers and made people jump to their deaths below. We should not condemn parents that starve their children. …

      Are you getting the picture? What you are saying is not valid. You want it to be valid in order to suit your wish to live a happy go lucky Christian life. Unfortunately, as Christians, we do bear a responsibility to point out the sins of our world. We don’t do this to condemn or judge, but to instruct. My article is to correct a grave misunderstanding in our culture. It is to give biblical evidence of the truth that concerns all Christians, even you. Where do I condemn?

      Now, you say you ‘accept’ LBGT lifestyles even in the face of God’s and Jesus’ words? Then you defy your own King. And that is on you. I fear for you. But as you say, that is between you and Jesus.

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    • Hi Jasmine, scriptures (all scripture is God-breathed) on sexual immorality are as clear as the sun in the summer sky; it IS sin. Throughout the Old and New Testament, God chose prophets and His people to condemn sin & preach repentance in love, to trust and obey Him, and to follow the One whom He has sent (Jesus, who was and IS the Word of God). Christians are not to sit idle but to stand and deliver the truth God gave us through the Word, not condemn the person but the SIN. I’m content that God has that righteous position to judge, and we will all give an account. It’s not cruel to warn impending danger with correction, but rather cruel to not warn. It’s true love that cares enough in the face of adversity. Remember, Jesus said to the sinning woman, “Then neither do I condemn YOU. Go now and leave your life of sin.”

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  66. Hello, hope you’re having a good day.

    I’d like to inquire specifically about your views on gay adoption. You state that having gay parents is akin to child abuse because children get views from their parents, which would make them gay and therefore sexually deviant, correct?

    Not only is this inaccurate, overlooking the fact that gay parents often raise straight children (and that straight parents raise gay children), you also state that allowing gay parents to adopt is intentional child abuse in that it causes children to have no good role models. I just can’t wrap my head around what you’re trying to say here- are all gay people absentee parents? Are gay people nonexistent, perhaps? Would a gay parent, ultimately, be worse for a child than a straight parent that happens to be abusive or addicted to drugs? Are they unable to teach their children morals, and therefore, are all sinners unable to properly teach their children? “For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard,” says Paul in Romans 3. So in your view, nobody is worthy of raising children, since all humans sin and are therefore abusers and bad role models?

    “You may think you can condemn such people, but you are just as bad, and you have no excuse! When you say they are wicked and should be punished, you are condemning yourself.” This verse in Romans 2 might have been referring to Jews, but it applies here as well. Sin is not ranked in levels, there is no sin that will make someone more or less evil than other people, and therefore a homosexual parent would be just as sinful as you yourself, since all humans commit sin.

    You can’t just focus on one sinful action in this view. Either all sins invalidate all humans as parents, since all commit sin, or homosexuals should be allowed to adopt because one type of sin does not make them more unworthy of being parents than others who also commit sin. Make up your mind.

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    • Hi Izzy, If your logic about the Bible was valid concerning sin, then there could be no qualifications for any parents who wish to adopt children at all. We should just let any drug abusing, illiterate, no income, sexually deviant, homeless person adopt children, right? After all, sin is sin, according to the Bible under your understanding of it, right? In fact, why should we even have laws where we punish anyone for anything, according to you and your understanding of that Bible verse? Why should be put thieves in jail? After all, we are all sinners, right? We should put all of us in jail, right? Isn’t that what that verse means?

      Clearly, something is wrong with your interpretation, don’t you think?

      Izzy, you are misinterpreting the Bible quite severely. Every human is covered in sin- that is our NATURE. However, we create LAWS of society that dictate which sins must be punished BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE SEVERE THAN OTHERS. Our laws form a justice system which is upheld by Paul in Romans 13 (below) when he said that kings are God’s servants in that they met out ‘justice’ on this earth. This is one way that God pays back ‘revenge’ for our sins.

      “1Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.”

      Thus, there is the matter of our inherent sin which must be resolved through the blood of Christ and then there are our ACTIONS on earth which can also be governed through God’s ministers on earth which is the government and its LAWS.

      You are trying to conflate the issue by saying they are one and the same.

      Obviously, they are not. We must have some form of order in our society. That order must DEFINE THE BEST OF HUMAN BEHAVIOR, not the worst. That is the very definition of law. Even God’s law. Thou shalt not steal, kill, commit adultery, etc. Our laws are based on God’s laws. Of course, our laws can’t measure the sins of the mind and spirit. They can only control those of action. Now, when it comes to adoption, we must likely set laws that will provide the BEST situation for babies, not the worst. It is based on this assumption that I call gay adoption inherent child abuse. I base this on basic science and logic. The overwhelming number of babies will be heterosexual. Therefore, they need guidance on how to develop into heterosexual adults. Homosexual parents CAN’T provide that- BY THEIR INHERENT BEING. That’s just a fact. Thus, one of the most basic needs of the child can’t be met in that household. That is even more important than whether the couple can provide a nice home. And yet, the ability to provide a nice, clean home is one of the reasons an adoption agency can deny a couple adoption rights. Did you know that Korean agencies can deny adoption to Americans if the couple is overweight? Adoption agencies also cut off a couple based on age, income level, education level, etc. There are so many reasons that various countries and adoption agencies can discriminate against a couple. And why? Because the situation is deemed as less than ideal for the rearing of a child. So, I ask you, how can the lack of proper sexual role modeling not be one of them?

      While people want to give ‘rights’ to the adult couple who want the child, are their rights more important than the rights of the poor baby whose life is about to be ruined? No. Emphatically no. And it is incredibly selfish of the couple to demand it. But then again, I have only ever seen incredible selfishness from the gay community. They seem only to think of themselves. The logic of this argument is rock solid but they don’t want to hear it because it stands in the way of THEIR happiness. They want a baby like they want a puppy. Whether or not the baby will be ok is of no consequence to them. Science be damned. What can I say?

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