Is Homosexuality A Sin? What Did Jesus Say?

“Is THIS what God calls ‘good’?”

Is this the new building block for CIVILIZATION?

Is this the new building block for CIVILIZATION?

First, I do not believe there is such a thing as a homosexual community. I believe there is such a thing as a community that practices homosexuality. While the point seems minor, it is an important delineation. Is it possible that the tiniest fraction of the human population is curious or drawn to these practices? Perhaps. After all, animal populations show this deviation. But not in the percentages that the human population is now displaying. And we are NOT mere animals. We are soulful beings with minds & hearts to go along with our physical bodies. And we belong to a Maker to whom we owe obedience. Regardless of our personal desires or temptations. God states very clearly that he detests homosexual practices. This is stated clearly in both the Old and New Testaments. And while most homosexuals deny that Jesus spoke against the practice, he did. Jesus specifically defined marriage as between a man and a woman. NOT because of historical ‘norms’ that need special interpretation in today’s culture- but because God created us as man and woman. No historic or cultural understanding needed.

(Matt 19:3-9) “3 Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?” 4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[a] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’[b]? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.” 7 “Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?” 8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. 9 I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”

This passage makes it clear that ALL sex outside of marriage was sinful. And marriage can only be a man and a woman. Thus, homosexuality is automatically outside the bounds of marriage and thus, sinful in Jesus’ eyes.

I believe this is why you will almost always find that those who practice homosexuality also claim that either God is non-existent or that the Apostle Paul & Timothy (who wrote most of the New Testament and condemned this practice) was a false prophet. They fail to take Jesus’ rather clear statement into account.

Guess what? Since God is King, he sets the rules. After all, people are also tempted to cheat on their spouses, steal, lie, kill, etc. And because God forbids it, we don’t get to do it. Practicing homosexuality is the same- God said, “No.” So the answer is no!

If this community was not ashamed of their behavior, why are they all so interested in negating the Bible’s words on the matter? Why, if they are so convinced that God approves of their behavior, can’t they exist peaceably with Jesus and those who follow him? Why the rabid hate?

As for Gay Marriage, I view this as purely political. It is a means used by Progressives to destroy the family unit. Why? Because the FAMILY unit is the number one way that any society can properly teach, disperse resources and raise functional and independent citizens. Wreck this and you will get a new population that will be mentally crippled and dependent on Uncle Sam for everything. This is the number one goal of the Progressive movement: to gain complete power over its citizens by making them dependent on it for basic needs.

And Gay Adoption? This is purely and simply child abuse. In every way possible way. Sexual identity and sexual role modeling are almost 100% learned in the home as children soak in everything between their parents. They decide what they want to be as a man or woman and what they don’t want to be- all by watching their parents’ interactions. Uncle Bob or Auntie Kathy will NOT be able to put in the face time to fill this role in any child’s life. Without this type of daily learning, a child must struggle terribly to understand themselves as a man or as a woman. As sexual identity is one of the most important ways in which we define ourselves, I believe this is intentional child abuse and should NEVER be allowed. Are there children whose parents have died? Yes, and it’s very tragic & tough for those kids. But why would we intentionally put children in this situation? Adoption rules are extremely strict- they discriminate on income, home cleanliness, education & age. Homosexuality should also be a discriminatory factor.Many, many lukewarm Christians have never read their Bible and so are not armed properly for spiritual warfare. Thus, they condone that which they should not. They actually help satan destroy souls- and our country. Many will claim (because they heard it somewhere- kinda like ‘separation of church & state’) that the Old Testament Law is DEAD. Completely false. That is about the most irresponsible paraphrase of Apostle Paul’s deep thoughts concerning Jewish laws that made people DO rituals to make themselves righteous before God again. He merely stated that the old rules about sacrifices, cleansing rituals, eating rituals, priesthood rituals, etc, were no longer necessary because Jesus was the final sacrifice that would clean us and make us righteous before God. Jesus’ body & blood were so far more superior as a sacrifice to God than any number of beef shanks or birds, or cups of wheat could ever be. His sacrifice of himself was so magnificent in God’s eyes that it SUFFICED for all of us, for all time. THAT was Paul’s point. NOT that the entire Old Testament, which displays God’s personality and views on moral/ immoral behavior, is somehow negated! Jesus was EXTRA clear on the matter when he said,

“17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”

Thus all Old Testament laws and statements that judge homosexual sex as sinful remain standing as they had nothing to do with purification or priesthood rites to obtain righteousness before God. In addition, IF the Old Testament ‘Law’ were all dead, so would the ten commandments be. Nonsense.

And here are the laws about homosexuality written in several books of the Old and New Testaments:

Romans 1:18-32 “The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another. They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.”

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Timothy 1: 8-11 8 But we know that the law is good if a man use it lawfully,
9 knowing this: that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
10 for whoremongers, for those who defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjurers, and for whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine
11 according to the glorious Gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust.

Leviticus 20:13 13“‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

Leviticus 18:20-29 20 “‘Do not have sexual relations with your neighbor’s wife and defile yourself with her.
21 “‘Do not give any of your children to be sacrificed to Molek, for you must not profane the name of your God. I am the Lord.
22 “‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable.
23 “‘Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion.
24 “‘Do not defile yourselves in any of these ways, because this is how the nations that I am going to drive out before you became defiled. 25 Even the land was defiled; so I punished it for its sin, and the land vomited out its inhabitants. 26 But you must keep my decrees and my laws. The native-born and the foreigners residing among you must not do any of these detestable things, 27 for all these things were done by the people who lived in the land before you, and the land became defiled. 28 And if you defile the land, it will vomit you out as it vomited out the nations that were before you.
29 “‘Everyone who does any of these detestable things—such persons must be cut off from their people.

Duet 22:5 5 A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this..

Judges 19:22-24 22 While they were enjoying themselves, some of the wicked men of the city surrounded the house. Pounding on the door, they shouted to the old man who owned the house, “Bring out the man who came to your house so we can have sex with him.”
23 The owner of the house went outside and said to them, “No, my friends, don’t be so vile. Since this man is my guest, don’t do this outrageous thing.

1Kings 15:11-13 1 And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the Lord, as did David his father.
12 And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.
13 And also Maachah his mother, even her he removed from being queen, because she had made an idol in a grove; and Asa destroyed her idol and burned it by the Brook Kidron.

2 Kings 23:4-7 4 And the king commanded Hilkiah the high priest, and the priests of the second order and the keepers of the door, to bring forth out of the temple of the Lord all the vessels that were made for Baal and for the Asherah pole and for all the host of heaven; and he burned them outside Jerusalem in the fields of Kidron, and carried the ashes of them unto Bethel.
5 And he put down the idolatrous priests whom the kings of Judah had ordained to burn incense in the high places in the cities of Judah and in the places round about Jerusalem, those also who burned incense unto Baal, to the sun and to the moon and to the planets, and to all the host of heaven.
6 And he brought out the Asherah pole from the house of the Lord outside Jerusalem unto the Brook Kidron, and burned it at the Brook Kidron, and stamped it small to powder, and cast the powder thereof upon the graves of the children of the people.
7 And he broke down the houses of the sodomites that were by the house of the Lord, where the women wove hangings for the Asherah pole.

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  1. Dave says:

    HI Susan,
    I wanted to ask you what you would tell someone like me, someone who grew up Christian and believes that Jesus Christ is the ONLY way into heaven, someone who believes that Jesus died for our since, and that the only thing that we bring to, “the great exchange” is our sin, that He fulfilled the law and paid the price for our since, someone who has fought his whole life against gay feelings and prayed ceaselessly, even fasting, all to no avail?
    I have searched the bible for confirmation that I could still receive salvation, and believe that there is a biblical basis for the fact that i will actually receive salvation, but that I will have a low, “station” in heaven because I did not overcome. That is my first question; I trust that you can tell I am sincere in my inquiry and not at all aggressive or argumentative – this is a very real struggle in my life.
    My second question is whether or not you have read 1 and 2 Samuel in its entirety – have you seen that it is written that David and Jonathan became one in spirit, and that scripture even goes so far as to describe how David disrobed for Jonathan and that he later directly compares Jonathan’s love to that of a woman’s, and says that it surpassed the love of a woman?
    My last question is my most challenging; do you believe in predestination? If you do, do you believe that God has then ordained that homosexuals are never to receive salvation?
    Hoping you will pray about it and read the scripture that I have directed you to before answering – I am not arguing with you, merely looking for answers on a very difficult topic.

    Hopeful,

    • Short Little Rebel says:

      Hi Dave, yes, I have read the books of which you speak. No, they were not homosexuals. They were performing what is known as a covenant ritual. They exchanged robes and slaughtered animals, divided them and then walked between them- such as happens in a marriage ceremony- another covenant ritual. This type of covenant ritual would also take place between a king/priest and God. You would have to know Hebrew tradition to understand this covenant ritual to understand the significance. Luckily for you, my pastor recently gave a lecture on this very ritual and its meaning in church! So I can answer you with some education on the matter. So, this wasn’t an erotic situation. It was done in public as a ceremony, which is why it was written down. It wasn’t a secret or private thing. It was a life long covenant between them, making them more than brothers- their finances, lives, families, everything, was then tied together from that point on. You see this come to fruition later when Jonathan’s father, the King, tries to kill David, but Jonathan refuses to help and in fact, defies his own father to help David. In fact, Jonathan, who is destined to become king, gives up his own thrown willingly to David because he feels that David would make the better king. Such was their bond of covenant. But both marry and have families. Homosexuality was deeply frowned upon by both and by the Hebrew community. David was a man of God who pleased God in all that he did. God was happy with him. God stated his hatred for homosexuality during this time many times. IF David had committed homosexual acts, it would have been mentioned by God as one of his sins- certainly his sin of adultery with Uriel’s wife was listed by God in the bible. So, I hope that answers one of your questions. When David murdered Uriel just to cover up Uriel’s wife’s pregnancy from his adultery with her, God listed that as his sin in the Bible too. God had no problem listing David’s sins. In fact, God went so far as to say that these were his ONLY sins that he held against David. Other than these, he found in David the ‘perfect servant’. I think God might have mentioned homosexual acts considering how much he hates them, don’t you?

      Ok, to the next question. First, there are no ‘levels’ of heaven. That is a Mormon belief. Mormonism is a cult. Don’t get involved with them. Second, anyone can find salvation through Christ. Anyone. I believe you that you struggle with homosexuality. And I believe you that this is very difficult to over come. Listen, I want you to know that you are not the only one in the world who struggles with sin and lust!! Do you not know that ‘heterosexuals’ struggle with all kinds of lust too? I want to caution you from calling yourself a ‘homosexual’, ok? Don’t label yourself as anything other than a child of God, for that is what you truly are. That is what we all ARE. That is our identity. None of us is identified through our behavior. That would be like saying that someone who struggled with stealing is a thief. No, they are a child of God who struggles with the sin of stealing. They can be taught to control their behavior. As can you. As can we all. Sex is a behavior we choose everyday. That is what I know. You are a man. Perhaps sexual urges are stronger in a man than in a woman. But here is what I know- I would NEVER give up the billions of years of life I know are mine for a few handful of orgasms on this earth. No. way. In my calculating brain, I don’t see that adding up. But like I said, that is me, a woman, calculating. It would not be difficult for me to make that choice. There is no amount of sexual pleasure that could make me trade in billions of years of bliss for a couple of guilty tosses in bed. Nope. I would rather have a less satisfying sex life with a less satisfying partner (ie, the sex that God told me to be with), have kids the way God told me to and then when he called me home, go home to him and have him satisfied with me. But that’s just me.

      Dave, you have got to stop seeing life in such a myopic way. All you see is your pleasure here on earth. You need to understand that your life is not 80 years long. Your life is BILLIONS of years long. You are meant to live with me, with all your brothers and sisters in Christ, ruling even the angels, for Trillions of years in JOY, complete freedom and bliss. Don’t you want that? No more sorrow. No more pain. No more tears. No more distress. No more financial worries. Only passion, exploration, interest, fascination, time, relationships to explore, jobs to do, good to do- personally, I want to learn to do all the things I don’t have time to do now. Jesus said that the next world will even be more beautiful than this one. I can never find the time to just sit next to a stream and watch the fish in it- can you imagine being with someone you love and not be in rush to leave a stream as you lay there, watching and watching? I have no doubt Jesus will create a world even more full of animals and forest and wonder then this earth. Why would mere sex in bathrooms replace that???

      All that aside. The problem as I see it with homosexuality and salvation is this, Dave: Salvation requires repentance. The problem with modern churches that say that you can be a Christian and a practicing ‘homosexual’ is that there is no repentance of an acknowledged sin. You must consider to yourself, “What does repentance mean?” Repentance means that you humble yourself to God and agree that his way is the right and moral way. You accept his law as the ONLY law of what is right and what is wrong. You acknowledge that what you do is SIN and WRONG and that you will try to never do it again. You acknowledge that you are helpless to do what is right in his eyes. You kneel before God in your helpless state and beg Jesus to cover you in his blood to save you from yourself- from your own inability to stop sinning. And that is it. And Dave, that sounds like where you are. If that is where you are, then you will receive salvation, same as me. Because guess what? I can’t stop sinning either. So we are equal, dear. And we will see the same heaven.

      HOWEVER, what you may not do is sin at will. What you may not do is carry on a homosexual lifestyle as if you had never repented. You may not throw up your hands in helplessness and make a claim like, “Well, I can’t help it, so I just get to keep doing it! and Jesus must just forgive it over and over and over again without me having to repent every single time!” Can a thief get this kind of grace? Can he or she just keep stealing every single day after repenting? Can they have a stealing lifestyle and then expect acceptance in the church and expect complete salvation from God? No. Absurd. Repentance implies a wish to change. A deep seated desire to do what is right, according to God’s will, not your own will. You must fight temptation to sin with all your might- just like the rest of us. There is absolutely nothing special or more difficult about having lust for the wrong people, Dave. Join the rest of the human species. Does it mean you will never fall down? NO. You probably will fall down. But then, guess what? All you must do is come to the cross again and just apologize. That’s all. You haven’t lost your salvation, my dear. No one can take your salvation away from you except you yourself. You can only take it away from yourself if you say to Jesus, “Jesus, I renounce you and I curse you in the name of Satan! I curse God the Father in the name of satan!” Short of actually aligning your life with satan and cursing your Lord and Savior and God, you can’t be taken away from Jesus. His promise is true and can’t be broken. That is his COVENANT, which is true.

      Speaking of David and Jonathan’s covenant! The animal, Jesus, was cut in two and you walked through the blood, thus sealing the covenant between you and God. You see? That is the parallel of the old fashioned Hebrew sacrifice of covenant and God’s new covenant with us through the sacrifice of his Son, Jesus Christ.

      Rest in the peace of Jesus, Dave. As much as I write about homosexuality, I love all people who struggle with it. I hate those who push this sin upon our culture and call it ‘good’. It separates people from God. I am so very happy you wrote to me. If you have any further questions, please write back. Keep up the good fight. Remember, you are not ALONE in your struggle against sin. My sin is pride. I hate my sin and I must come back to the cross almost daily. I yearn to be free of this body because of it. None of us are free of the sin that drags us down. Sometimes just the act of living is a terrible thing. But we do not live to please ourselves, my dear. We live to PLEASE THE ONE WHO MADE US. If we can just realize that; if we can just stop focusing on self; we can live a life worth living; a life of which we can be very proud.

  2. Rose says:

    I’ve never understood why homosexuality/bisexuals is seen as bad. I know a couple who are bi, and always seem to be happiest in each other’s company. And when they make eye contact, it’s almost like the universe has stopped just for them. What makes it so wrong if they’re happy?

    • Short Little Rebel says:

      Hi Rose, you ask why they are seen as ‘bad’. I don’t see them as ‘bad’. That isn’t my feeling on the matter. I see them as being completely severed from God, and as such, I am concerned on many levels.

      First, I am concerned about the massive political push that homosexuals are having on our society today. They are not content to just live their lives as they see fit. If they were, I would not be writing about it. I write about it because they insist on pushing into my life and forcing me and everyone else to call their actions, ‘moral, good and right.’ They don’t stop there. No. They also want to punish me and everyone else if we won’t say that what they do is ‘good, moral and right’. They will punish my child if he won’t say it is ‘moral, right and good.’ That is why I write about it. Homosexuals have become violent and are out for blood. Especially against Christians. They are aggressively and intentionally attacking Christian businesses with the sole intent of destroying them. Even innocent businesses that have been kind and supportive of their community. They do this out of sheer hatred and spite. Is that right in your mind? Yet, at the same time, when a Christian goes to a gay bakery or a gay florist and asks them to create a cake or flower for an anti-gay rally, they say, “No way! Why would we do that? We are GAY!” I have seen videos where a Christian activist called gay businesses and recorded their responses- unbelievable. They say the exact things they are suing Christian businesses for saying- only they are RUDE, violent and use curse words! They fail to see their own hypocrisy in the matter. That is why I see them as hypocritical.

      For those that are not violent, I feel concern only for their future, for their fate. They will die forever. Most homosexuals also claim to be atheists. They are not atheists as there is no such thing. There are only disobedient children of God. Everyone knows that God exists. Everyone. Therefore, when they see him, he will punish them for their disobedience. They can’t lie to God and say they really didn’t know he existed. The reason they claim he doesn’t exist is because they know that the Bible expressly states that God does not approve of a man lying with a man or a woman with a woman. This is not what God intended for mankind. God intended man for woman in holy matrimony. There are deep reasons for this- but it would take too long to explain in this comment. Read my article, You are not Gay, You are a Child of God, for that explanation. Because they know this, they run from God. But this endangers their very lives. Is sex worth it? That is my question? No, it’s not. Not in my opinion. Obedience is easier and worth it. What is sex compared to eternal joy, laughter, fun and happiness? I’ll take the latter, thank you. Satan works to push homosexuality because he understands how completely separating it is from God. Because sex is something you do all the time (unlike murder, stealing, lying, etc), it is a sin that utterly separates a person from God. That is why satan loves it so much. That is WHY it is being pushed as much as you see on t.v., movies, magazines, books, etc. Ever wondered about that? Why homosexuality is such a huge topic when so few people are homosexuals? Well, there you are. Satan has great power on earth- HE is pushing this agenda. So, long answer to a short question.

  3. Joy says:

    Carmen is actually right , and I am Christian if you want to know . And too sit here and try too say that she’s wrong because she’s smarter than you is downright ignorant, science is proven ok , it is whether you like it or not. And all this stuff about God is not proven at all . Now ur probably wondering how are u Christian if you think that . And that answer is I don’t let asshole Christians like u change my religion, I believe in God because Shit why not . Most homosexuals don’t believe in God because YOU make him sound like an asshole . And saying that children who are adopted into a homosexual house hold is child abuse, makes you sound dumb as fuck . You obviously haven’t done your research on that part at all . Because most kids that are adopted by homosexuals are STRAIGHT . And haha jokes on you but 95% of homosexuals come from straight individuals. So fuck your logic and fuck you . Now you have a nice blessed day

    • Short Little Rebel says:

      Like, Joy, “science is proven”, like, right? Like, really, Joy? Really? Like, when ‘science’ said the world was flat? Like then? Joy? Like science was proven then? Like, when doctors thought putting slugs to suck the illness out of the ‘bad blood’ of sick people was, like, a great idea, Joy, like then, like, oh mah God, was science ,like proven then, too? Joy, was it then? How about when, like, scientists thought they could, like, use alchemy, to like, make gold, and somehow, like, mix spiritual enlightenment, and like, find the fountain of youth, like, and make gold, like was science proven then, Joy? How about when mercury was used to cure diseases? like, was science proven then, Joy? like, oh may God! Joy? How about when scientists and thought the earth was made of ‘fire’, ‘water’ and ‘air’ and ‘mineral’ . like, shit, Joy? was science proven then?

      Joy! you make me laugh! Get a grip on yourself girl. Science is the LAST THING in the world that has been proven. What is wrong with this new generation?? Do you not even understand that what you call Science doesn’t even exist? The term ‘science’ is simply a concept. There is the pursuit of science, I suppose. There exists various methods by which information can be verified. But one can never say such an ignorant thing as ‘Science is proven!’ Please either increase your world view or your vocabulary’s precision, young lady.

      Science is not in the business of Disproving anything. It merely sets forward a hypothesis and then seeks to prove it true. It TRIES to prove it true. And then, it stands there, naked, hoping upon hope to NOT be proven untrue by the next grad student who happens along who feels that the experiment lacked in it’s vigor or process! My girl, the world of science is very careful to avoid the word ‘fact’ because they have enough intelligence to know that we know almost nothing. In fact, the sign of genius is the acknowledgement that mankind grasps almost nothing in the vastness of what we have yet to know. Only a nincompoop thinks mankind knows anything at all. I say nincompoop because this person fails to even look around and be amazed at the literal infinity of facts and knowledge that surrounds them- all screaming for uncovery- I do not say ‘dis’covery, I say ‘un’covery! No, the nincompoop stands there in their selfish, egocentric selfabsorbed little world and sees nothing! And they take it for a fact that ‘SCIENCE has been proven’!

      Joy. For the sake of yourself. For the sake of representing Christ well. EDUCATE yourself and stop being a nincompoop. And clean up your language, little miss. It gives no credit to your parents. It gives no credit to your church. It gives no credit to Christ, whom you are supposed to represent. You obviously failed to read the scripture I put into this article. You obviously don’t care. But let me tell you something, Joy. There is only ONE place that tells us about God and that is the bible. So if your ‘religion’ is in disagreement with that little book, then it is not in alignment with God. And if it is not in alignment with God, then you are not pleasing HIM. It is not ME you are defying, it is God. So, when you speak to him next, remember that. He is not pleased with you. You need to mature and grow up. You need to read your bible and stop following the world. Jesus told us, “If you were of the world, the world would love you. But you are not of the world, for I took you out of it. The world will hate you because it hated me first.” Joy, note that you and the world hates ME for my words. Yet it loves YOU. I stand for the bible and its words. You defy it. The world hates Me for standing by the bible. It loves YOU for standing against it. Thus, you are WITH the world and against Jesus, whom you claim to love. Christ said, “Not everyone who calls Lord, Lord will I hear. I will say, I never knew you- Go away you evil servant!” and they will be thrown into the pit of fire. That will be YOU, Joy, if you do not come into obedience. You can’t have it both ways. It is NICE to be loved by the world. I KNOW. I was once in your shoes. But God requires a choice. A sacrifice, as it were. You will be HATED, like I am hated. But you will know true joy because God will give you the peace and joy that passes all understanding. You day of choice is quickly approaching Joy! This is what God sends from me to You. Pick wisely.

  4. Strategy4Life says:

    Dear Short Little Rebel. I wanted to commend you on such an articulate message. This also includes your responses to Carmen. I have found that many people who choose atheism over Christ fail to understand the basic foundation of faith. They routinely try to battle the argument for faith. However, they fail to realize that in order to disbelieve that Christ exist, they must have faith that He does not. Fortunately for people like us, use of the scriptures provides the only foundation we need to live by. Unfortunately, those who hear the word and don’t believe see God’s word as a barrier to their freedom and not a source of freedom. May God richly bless you for your work.

  5. ody says:

    Why don’t you ask God if He is real? Better yet, why don’t you ask Him to give you a taste of , something that you deserve? I hope you don’t pick something real bad, because He might just do it!!!. He is real wether you believe it or not,and you will know Him,either here on earth or in hell, but u will know and you will bow your knee to Him. I hope you find the truth,so that you could love Him and trust Him. We love you regardless if you are straight or gay. He loves you more than you can imagine!!

  6. Carmen says:

    I understand that you believe there’s a god. It make sense, for thousands of years people have been answering that which they cannot justify with their religion. It’s a security. It helps with death and makes life a little less scary. I assure you that I am atheist. I have no doubt in my mind that we are here simply because of evolution. That what happens, happens because we make it happen. Not some higher power. But, hypothetically, (this is just so that I understand your perspective) if God did say homosexuality was wrong, what would his reasoning behind it be? And why would he have the right to make that decision for all people?

  7. Carmen says:

    Again, I’m atheist. I believe that we live our life, and we die. And that’s it. So obviously I will make my life the happiest I can in the short time it still exists. I’m not about to give up the people I love. I’m not going to shut off an entire portion of my life that actually makes me happy and helps with all the other shit just because of the possibility that there is a god. Even if God did exist, he must be an evil man. For him to say I don’t have the right to be happy, is downright heartless. If he was so great, he would understand that I have just as much rights as a strait girl to marry and have sex with anyone I wanted. So if he does exist, fuck him. He doesn’t deserve my praise.

    • Short Little Rebel says:

      Carmen, from your lips to God’s ears. You are a very unwise girl indeed. Illogical too. If there is a God, then your words simply condemn you forever. And it won’t be him that is f-cked. It will be you. If there is a God, no matter what his character is, he is more powerful than you, thus his designation as God. So, you lose. It is like standing up to a mack truck while driving a bug. Kinda stupid. Further, every human being on earth knows that God exists. That is exactly why you read this article. You read it in the hopes of finding an excuse for your behavior. But you didn’t find it and now you are angry. Your anger doesn’t change a thing, does it? God does exist and your words do exist. Luckily for you, God is extremely forgiving. All you need to do is repent- that means, ‘say sorry’ and sin no more. Sex can’t mean that much to you. It can’t be worth that much to anyone. That is just spoiled thinking. “I want what I want and no one gets to tell me to stop.” Why don’t you kick your heels on the floor too? Any baby can do that. The sign of a mature adult is understanding that one can’t always have what one desires. If we can’t afford something, we can’t just steal it. There are rules that govern morality. Sex has rules set by God. We don’t get to argue. You know that homosexuality is sin. You know it to the deepest part of yourself. I’m sorry it pains you. Well, Carmen, there are no such things as atheists. No matter how many times you scream it. You know what you know. God sees you. I pray that you get the time to see your death coming and I pray even harder that your pride doesn’t get the best of you before your death comes. I pray that you get the chance- and that you take that chance to repent before you leave this earth. Saying, “I’m sorry,” isn’t that hard. Make your peace, dear. There is more joy in this life than you know- and it has nothing to do with sex. It has everything to do with knowing Christ. You truly do not understand what you have lost. You are living in the darkest of dark- you do not even know what happiness is. But I do. I wish it for you. Good luck, my dear. Susan

  8. Carmen says:

    I’m sorry but it’s not up to you or your religion to decide who and who you cannot be with. Personally, I’m both atheist and bisexual. And there is nothing wrong with either of these. Considering how the only argument against gay marriage is religion and because in the constitution it clearly states; separation of church and state, I see no actual reason gay marriage should not be legal anywhere in the US. But its legal in oregon now so I’m happy :)

    • Short Little Rebel says:

      Carmen, this article is not about the legality of gay marriage, this article is about the sin of homosexuality. They are two different things. Obviously, you are interested in what Jesus had to say on the matter or you wouldn’t have read the article. You already knew the legal aspects. We all care what Jesus has to say because we are all seeking Jesus. Only Jesus offers us a way to be free from sin and only Jesus tells us how we can reconcile our sinful selves to God and how to obtain eternal life in any kind of logical way. No other ‘religion’ does that. All other ‘religions’ give a list of rules to follow but fail to give any remedy on what to do WHEN we fail to follow the rules. Only Christ offers forgiveness through a logical means- through his death on the cross. He took all our sins upon himself and sacrificed himself out of love for us. Thus, we are free from our sins through his sacrifice which was bought through is incredible love for us. Jesus and his plan are logical. No other prophet or religious though process has this kind of answer to how we can rid ourselves of our sin (and even you know that you sin) so that we can stand next to a perfect God. You say that you are an atheist, but you have never faced death. When someone puts a gun to your head, believe me, you will come to understand very quickly that you were never meant to die, to disappear. No, your soul, your essence, is meant to endure forever. It will not make a grain of sense, in that moment of impending death, that you should die forever. Your entire being will scream out in denial of death. You have never been in the proverbial foxhole, with the enemy approaching to gut you. You live in complete safety- that is why you say that you believe in your own death. You know nothing about it. And so, you take enormous risks with your own true life, your eternal one. Because you fail to consider that you might not see your death coming. It might end suddenly and then, because you were so blithe in this short, false life, you have lost your eternal, true life. And it was to be the most beautiful part of your life. And why? Because you wanted to bump uglies with both sexes. That hardly seems worth it to me. But that is entirely up to you. I will never understand that type of calculation- I weigh my life quite differently than you. I would rather sacrifice anything in this life to purchase eternal happiness. You would rather bump uglies with both sexes and die forever. I shrug my shoulders and scratch my head at your choice. But as you said, the law is with you. In any case, with or without the law, no one would stop you from this activity, would they? Certainly not I. As I said, this article merely served to make it clear to all exactly what the bible had to say on the matter. So many people who are either considering homosexuality or were already engaged in it are completely ignorant of the bible and what Jesus himself had to say. I wanted to provide a service to them so that they could make their decision with their eyes wide open. And yes, homosexuality is a decision, as you well know. No one forces you to bump uglies with anyone. No one. And anyone can have sex with anyone- as is proven by the huge number of men who once had families and then decide to move into the homosexual lifestyle. Ditto for women. It is a lustful lifestyle that is free from responsibility. That is the lure. The problem with reading my article is that now no one, including you, can claim ignorance to God when they see him someday. Now, God will be very firm with you when you see him if you do not change you ways. If you continue disobeying him concerning sex, then you will answer for it now that you are clear on his opinion on the matter. I’m sorry. I do hope you will consider these matters and that you will do the right thing for yourself. Obeying God is not about slavery. It is about freedom- both here on earth and in heaven. You are in slavery now. You are in misery now. You think you know happiness, but you do not. I know peace and I know freedom. I know bliss but you don’t know bliss. I wish you did. Come back to Jesus through simple obedience. Trust in his rules and eventually you will build a real relationship with him and you will be set truly free. This earth and all its miseries and traps will no longer hold you. You will soar high above it and you will know a joy that you have never known. I promise you. Be blessed, my dear. Susan

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